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« on: October 19, 2008, 01:02:54 AM »

I breed XLD1 Coturnix Quail, my partner is sick. Very sick. Ron has been in a basic induced coma for 8 days. His symtoms started as double pneumonia, only to worsen. He is now not getting better, but not getting worse.
 The birds we are raising were USA born. Can anyone think of any reason he might be sick from the birds.
 I have had no problem myself. His wife Jeanie is going through hell everyday. I picked up his breeders so Jeanie would have less to think about. I will keep them until Ron gets back on his feet.
 Keep in mind that the quail are not necessarily "THE" problem, but we are reaching for answers.
 Any idea's would be helpful. Dave.
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 05:56:15 AM »


  I don't believe there are any diseases that are transmissable between Quail and humans.  Thew only thing I can think of, would be e-coli, fungus, bacterial infections from feces contact/breathing. 

  A person wold almost have to intentionally concentrate and inhale the dust from birds and feces to cause a serious problem like you describe.  Adding these things to infected lungs would magnify the problem, of course.  People with severely compromised immune systems are a different story.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 12:06:09 PM »

Thanks Wilder, the only thing that could compound the problem is that he smokes. I would assume the doc's have taken all this into considration, but I will pass it along.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 06:12:17 PM »


  A smoker with Pneumonia is no surprise, then add a little pollution, and powdered poop in the air.

  Also, I knew a fellow a few years back who got fungus infection in his sinuses, and lungs, fro eating tomatoes in the garden without washing them.  This is serious stuff.  If you know he does not have a garden, don't mention this to his wife, she doesn't need something else to fear.  Besides, the doctors have surely considered fungus.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 07:53:31 PM »

histoplasmosis is the disease from birds that humans get.  There are light cases where it only affects breathing and there are serious cases where a person will die from it.

I've known several people that have had it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 08:26:51 PM »


 Isn't that one of the diseases from handling, and breathing the droppings?

  Not that it would matter much to the people who contracted it, whether it was from the droppings, or transmitted directly.  It would be important to others for preventive purposes.

  I always try to remember to use a mask, and/or six fans, when I shovel it.  Except, here, of course.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 08:55:20 PM »

I'm definitely no expert on the disease, but I do understand that it is spread from breathing airborne particles into your lungs.

I've heard that like poison ivy and bee stings, each person is tolerant to various levels of exposure.  Some get it as easly as holding a bird and breathing it in from the dust off the one bird, others can be in the barn in the middle of the thickest dust cloud many times over and possibly never get it.

Anyway, I just know it can really affect some people in a very life threatening way.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 11:49:02 PM »

The affect this can have on those closest is terrible. I feel for you all.

I can barely remember this but I thought I'd say something about a similar experience I had a few years ago. I was hospitalized for close to a month with-out the coma, all though I was slipping in and out as I recall.  I couldn't breath with the pain involved. It was impossible to ignore so a sedative was used which is probably why the slipping in and out of consciousness occurred.

About a week or so into this, I remember the doctor telling me it was a new strain of pneumonia, everything he's trying isn't working and he didn't know what to do. Blood samples were taken several times a day, every day, through the entire stay and sent to labs here, there and everywhere for analysis.  As I recall, a specialist just happened to stop in the building for something on his way back home that was some where in the midwest.

My doctor said he wanted to send him in to speak with me. Of course I said yes, He spoke with me about a process and asked for my consent. Honestly, I don't remember the entire procedure but what I do remember is the build up around the outside of the lungs were drained and a micro camera was used to look inside the lungs. (its inserted through the throat) The camera didn't find a thing by the way.

A few days after the drain was started, The antibiotic used began to work (it's not a common one and can't remember the name of it right now) which allowed other treatments to work -  To this day, the cause is still unknown or at least they've never told me. Personally, I don't believe your birds or bird droppings are the cause.


I hope he pulls through the hump soon .. I'll be looking for updates, hang in there..

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 09:21:16 PM »

Hey CV, and all. Ron has been diagnosed with THE rarest for of pnumonia there is. His wife, Jeanie tells me that 1 in 100 people get this strain. He also has an infection in both lungs that has yet to be identified, or treated.
 Ron is getting better, but the DR.'s are still puzzled as to the origin of the infection.
Thank you all for the concern, this is my Brother from another mother.
Ron AKA "Buscuits", Thumper and the Greyghost are much abliged.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 03:24:08 PM »

Hey CV, and all. Ron has been diagnosed with THE rarest for of pnumonia there is. His wife, Jeanie tells me that 1 in 100 people get this strain. He also has an infection in both lungs that has yet to be identified, or treated.
 Ron is getting better, but the DR.'s are still puzzled as to the origin of the infection.
Thank you all for the concern, this is my Brother from another mother.
Ron AKA "Buscuits", Thumper and the Greyghost are much abliged.

greyghost,

Did you check the topic that is in the Health Issues Forum: RE:HISTOPLASMOSIS in humans ? Go on the link and read it. It may be what you partner has. If they don't know about it they can't treat it. Bascially the same symptoms as pnumonia, but it's not. Histoplasmosis is an infectious disease caused by inhaling the spores of a fungus.

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2008, 10:33:12 PM »

Steve, I'm late, as usual. Since Ron was regaining his strength. I did not check the link. But I thank you and all who replied. Recent news; Ron, Myself, Steve the land owner, and Carl ( Steve's friend ) are going hunting this weekend. Starting with Geese, then on to Rabbits, then Quail and Pheasant.
Then a big lunch and BEER! c110 a30
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2008, 04:01:52 AM »

Steve, I'm late, as usual. Since Ron was regaining his strength. I did not check the link. But I thank you and all who replied. Recent news; Ron, Myself, Steve the land owner, and Carl ( Steve's friend ) are going hunting this weekend. Starting with Geese, then on to Rabbits, then Quail and Pheasant.
Then a big lunch and BEER! c110 a30

greyghost,

Glad to here that your friend Ron is on the way to recovery. Did you ever find out the actual cause, and what was the regiment of treatment?

Steve
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2008, 11:24:10 PM »

Steve, after Ron was  sent home I was a bit hesitant to make contact, just for a while considering that Jeanie ( Ron's wife  ) had almost lost him. Ron is back to work and has called  interested in hunting this weekend. We will get time to talk in the duck blind. Between Sidney ( His retriever ) and him, I will  get the scoop.l
 I'll let you know. Dave.
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