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Title: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 12, 2007, 04:39:50 PM
hi,
i'm currently incubating ringneck pheasants eggs and today is day 23, hatch day.  I don't understand why but none of the eggs are pipping yet, is the hatching period maybe 24 instead of 23.  i know  that all the eggs were turned during the incubation process, right temp, and right humidity.  Please help me out, i'm worried that they won't hatch, i have the brooder all set up and everything.
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: Pheasant Hollow Farm on June 12, 2007, 05:18:40 PM
hi,
i'm currently incubating ringneck pheasants eggs and today is day 23, hatch day.  I don't understand why but none of the eggs are pipping yet, is the hatching period maybe 24 instead of 23.  i know  that all the eggs were turned during the incubation process, right temp, and right humidity.  Please help me out, i'm worried that they won't hatch, i have the brooder all set up and everything.

Apparently you did not Do your research!!! Ring-necked Pheasants don't hatch in 23 or 24 days... That goes for Chinese or Manchurian...


Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm


Edited to add, It is Ring-necked!! Not ringneck!!!!!
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: Reeves on June 12, 2007, 05:29:16 PM
24-25 days

Before you post another question, I'd like to request at this time that you quit trying to raise ANY species of Game Bird.

You are supposed to do research BEFORE any attempt to do so.

You have been posting one question after another asking what to do AFTER THE FACT on the proper care of , well , EVERY THING.

I (and most others) will help others learn the proper ways to raise Game Birds, you seem to be asking questions as a mear test of our knowledge.
Do you have any idea that you are getting your self into a world of trouble ?

Search works. Google works.
Please: research before asking dumb questions.
You have tested every ones patience to the limit....
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: CharlieHorse on June 12, 2007, 05:40:31 PM
Maybe the temp is too high or low?

Humidity too high or low?

Did you turn the eggs while incubating?

Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 12, 2007, 05:57:54 PM
Ok , i'm sorry , what do you want me to do, everyone makes mistakes, unless your perfect which i dont you are.  By the way, i did use the search button but with no information regarding the hatching period of ringneck pheasants. And how may i ask is that a dumb question, when it is useful to know.

Well, trailbossusa,
nope, the temperature,humidty, and turning is all accurate.  I don't understand why they said that ringneck pheasant eggs take 24 to 25 days, when i read that they take 23 days?  i stopped turning eggs on day 21
Hopefully i get some pipping by tonight, what do you think?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: magnumhntr on June 12, 2007, 06:14:36 PM
Here, I did the work for you ~ click the link and then read the first search return....

http://www.google.com/search?q=ring+necked+pheasant+incubation+time&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: magnumhntr on June 12, 2007, 06:17:56 PM
On another note, there was a person who did this same type of thing a while back, and caused a disagreement with Steve and I, as I thought he was being too harsh on the guy. After some more time here, I see that I was wrong by not being hard enough on him. Moral to this story, it is one thing to ask legitimate questions, it is another to be too lazy to find them out by trying google first, and being a pest......

Start doing some legitimate research on the net, with google and yahoo. Then come here for answers you can't find after putting in some sort of effort.

Sheesh....

Chris
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 12, 2007, 06:19:03 PM
hi,
thanks for the reply, i did the same thing, i just am confused why some people say 23 to hatch otheres 24 to 25, i stopped turning at day 20, if their suppose to hatch in 24 days then i should of stopped turning at day 21, does that mean't they won't hatch if i stopped turning a day early?
Thanks
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: Pheasant Hollow Farm on June 12, 2007, 06:23:28 PM
On another note, there was a person who did this same type of thing a while back, and caused a disagreement with Steve and I, as I thought he was being too harsh on the guy. After some more time here, I see that I was wrong by not being hard enough on him. Moral to this story, it is one thing to ask legitimate questions, it is another to be too lazy to find them out by trying google first, and being a pest......

Start doing some legitimate research on the net, with google and yahoo. Then come here for answers you can't find after putting in some sort of effort.

Sheesh....

Chris

Thank you Chris........

Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 12, 2007, 06:28:50 PM
hi,

i'm not lazy, i went to search for the answer first and got that they hatched in 23 days, i just wanted to make sure this was right b/c none of my eggs are pipping! 
It doesn't hurt to doublecheck, or is that against the law   :laugh:   I dont  like to argue, i just want to get an answer , thats all i'm asking for
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: gsc on June 12, 2007, 06:54:18 PM
I might suggest you use the spell check button that is available each time you post.  Eggs, and more specifically shipped eggs don't come with exact set timers.  There are number of variables.  The quality of your system, the uniformity of the conditions will play a part.  While you think you have good control, I can assure you that unless you have spent $1000's you have at best modest control.  This being said, it can make hatching extend and not start for days after you think it should.  You can end up with eggs hatching at 25 or 26 days and continuing for several days afterword.  You will find many replies to posts that suggest patience grasshopper!  You do seem to be confrontational in your tone in case you were unaware.
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: gsc on June 12, 2007, 07:09:39 PM
Just a quick look

http://www.gamebird.com/hatching.html
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/livestock/poultry/species/pheasant-raising/egg-production
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 12, 2007, 07:21:04 PM
hi,
thanks for all the info, i'll try to be more patience.  Is it okay that i stopped turning the eggs starting on Day 21, even though they should hatch in 24 to 28 days?
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: jk on June 12, 2007, 08:14:24 PM
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Is it okay that i stopped turning the eggs starting on Day 21, even though they should hatch in 24 to 28 days?

Sure, why not? (YES, IT"S FINE; DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT).
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 12, 2007, 09:05:19 PM
Hi,
ok     just next time answer in a better tone, i didnt use big letters to ask the question, thanks!!
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: CharlieHorse on June 12, 2007, 09:13:51 PM
birdlover,

 Look here from the Home Page of this very site:

http://www.thatquailplace.com/raising/periodchart.htm

There is a massive amount of information, books availible, and links on the Home Page of That Quail Place.  I know that most, including me, go directly to the forum and overlook the home pages. Take a look, browse around.

No one minds answering your questions......that's what this site is about, but yet you've been around for a while and it seems as though you're just toying with us at times. You know about "pipping" and other details of incubation, but yet you're unsure of the days of incubation, so therefore, we get confused as to where you're coming from.

Maybe your first question in this post should have been..............

"If I quit turning my pheasant eggs a day or two earlier than they should have been, will they still hatch?"

..............which is ultimately what you wanted to know.          :eek:

Give them eggs some time, they may not hatch until day 27 or may not hatch at all, no need to get excited. There's nothing you can do, but wait and see.

Good Luck!

Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: aKirA on June 12, 2007, 11:08:18 PM
hi,
i'm currently incubating ringneck pheasants eggs and today is day 23, hatch day.  I don't understand why but none of the eggs are pipping yet, is the hatching period maybe 24 instead of 23.  i know  that all the eggs were turned during the incubation process, right temp, and right humidity.  Please help me out, i'm worried that they won't hatch, i have the brooder all set up and everything.
Well you mentioned that your eggs was losing weight. So if that is true then more then likely it's drying up and not going to hatch. Candle them to be sure.
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: Reeves on June 13, 2007, 12:44:23 AM
x2 on the candling...

On another note, bird kid mentions "feeling" the weight difference. I call BS. It is so little no one will be able to tell the difference.

Computation of egg weight loss
The optimum weight loss over the incubation period of a game bird egg is calculated as follows:

(Wt x 15% devided T = Weight loss per day
Where: Wt = fresh egg weight; T = incubation period

If the fresh egg weight is known it can be calculated as follows:

0.548 x dia2 x length = fresh egg weight (grams)
Where: dia2 = diameter of the egg (in centimeters) squared
length = egg's length in centimeters

The rate of weight loss in incubating eggs can be easily be determined using the following formula:

(Wt2 devided Wt1) x (T1 devided T2) x 100 = projected percent loss in weight
where: W1 = fresh egg weight
W2 = amount of weight loss at time of weighing
T1 = incubation period
T2 = days of incubation at time of weighing

(I have charts showing this)
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 13, 2007, 12:22:38 PM
hi,
thanks for all the info. it was all useful, is'nt their a way that i can tell that the chick is alive in the egg, besides candling?  Im getting worried todays day 24
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: jk on June 13, 2007, 04:46:09 PM
Crack it open... of course that will result in the loss of one chick.
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 13, 2007, 05:15:58 PM
hi,
so if that will result in the loss of a chick, then that means that they should be pipping and hatching soon,correct?
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: MtBullion Gamebirds on June 13, 2007, 05:27:01 PM
Crack it open... of course that will result in the loss of one chick.

Actually it might be a blessing for these chicks.  Seriously, be patient if they don't hatch by day 28, crack one carefully at the large end.  See if there is any movement.  If so, put it back in.  But by that time, they will probably be too weak to survive.  Also, if your opening that incubator too much, the humidity will drop and you will cause the chicks to stick and die.  

But birdlover, really, don't you think the questions are getting really really old.  Do some research.  This is not really a chat room.  If you get really stuck and can not find another answer anywhere to your very basic questions, then don't hesitate to ask.  I am sure you will get an expert and friendly answer.

But, since you registered on May 28 2007, you have started 37 Topics and have posted 147 times.  Most of which you are giving advise about things you really don't know anything about.  Please refrain from giving advise, when you really don't know the answer.  The post counts don't matter here.  Most of us are into this as a business, not just because we think they are cute.  There is money involved.  I am at least 3 times your age and I really don't want you giving me advise.  You told someone in another thread that it was okay to let their birds roll around in gravel!   Come on, do your reading and research on everything you can find out before you go any further into raising anymore gamebirds.

Also, It seems you don't even know it when your being made fun of.  Don't think we really bought you accidently erasing the lightbulb thread. 
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: jk on June 13, 2007, 05:54:56 PM
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hi,
so if that will result in the loss of a chick, then that means that they should be pipping and hatching soon,correct?

No... it is VERY simple. If you crack the egg open BEFORE THE CHICK IS READY TO HATCH, then if it is alive it will probably die soon after. My reply was meant to say that candling is the only reasonable way of telling if the chick in the egg is alive, and then there is cracking open the egg, which is not reasonable as it results in the loss of the chick. There was a bit of sarcasm in that reply...

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Most of which you are giving advise about things you really don't know anything about.  Please refrain from giving advise, when you really don't know the answer.

I second that... I had to correct you in that topic and we are not here to correct false info., we are here to give info. when it is needed... AND not just whenever it is something simple you can search maybe 30 sec. on google or something to find. There is no reason to FREAK out and post topics about how stressed you are... we don't care about how stressed you are...
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 13, 2007, 06:00:28 PM
hi,
yes mtbullion gamebirds, i understand.   I will try not to ask any dumb questions, and yes i will do some research before i starting asking.  With the eggs..... i will wait by day 28, i have another batch of pheasants eggs so if none of these hatch i'll put the next batch in.  i guess the only reason why i asked all those questions regarding pheasants eggs was b/c i was worried and nervous that my pheasants eggs won't hatch, i can stand it when i work so hard in something, in this case temp., humidity, etc, and i fail at it.      Thanks i will update you on the eggs, hopefully i have some chicks soon!!!  
Title: Re: hatching period for ringneck pheasants?
Post by: birdlover on June 14, 2007, 04:31:09 PM
hi,
I have good new!!  Last night i went to go check on the eggs, i went to touch this egg and when i put it back into the incubator, i heard it chirp.  Boy was i excited, i had a feeling from that moment that i was going to have chicks.  Then when i came home and went to see the eggs, i saw one cute pheasant chick right in front of me, i was so happy i didnt know what to do.  I noticed another egg cracking so maybe i'll get more by the time tonight is over.  I just wanted to say a huge Thank You to everyone who helped me out during this journey.  I appreciate all of the useful information that i got from the questions.  I'm fixing the brooder now put have to get out tomorrow to buy their feed, i guess for now i'll give them the same food i fed to the button quails last year.  I will post pictures soon.  Thanks Again!!!!!