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Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: CharlieHorse on April 27, 2004, 07:42:47 PM
This bird was hanging around in my driveway this morning. It seemed as if it had been a caged bird at some point, it wasn't that scared of me. After about 5 hours I lured it into a cage with some wild bird feed, then slammed the door shut on him from a remote location with a string!!  I live out in the middle of nowhere, so the bird would have had to travel a great distance to get here. I sure would like to know what it is though. (SouthEast Ohio)
Any ideas?

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Title: Well....
Post by: deathchaser on April 27, 2004, 07:53:18 PM
looks like a pigeon to me! What kind though, I could not say.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: CharlieHorse on April 27, 2004, 07:58:17 PM
That's kinda what I figured........but I have never seen one this big or this color around here. It is twice as big or bigger than the doves around here. I don't know what the difference is between a dove and a pigeon anyway.  :? This thing has a good two foot wingspan and every bit of 6" across its back. I'm ten miles from the nearest town. Plus, it wasn't even scared of my dogs, that's why I figured that it has been caged at some point.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: CharlieHorse on April 27, 2004, 09:34:11 PM
Well, after checking out some things, I do believe that it is your everyday common "Rock Pigeon"...."City Pigeon"......"Rock Dove".  I didn't think of it being the run of the mill pigeon because of it's color, but after researching I have learned that the ordinary "City Pigeon" comes in numerous colors, even all black such as this one. Most also have a stripe on their wingtips, as to which this one does not. This one is solid black, with the purple/green cast to it. So anyway, I think that I have a city slicker lost out here in the boonies.......may be looking fer a mate?  First time that I have ever caught a wild bird in my driveway!!
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: MaDHaTTer on April 27, 2004, 10:07:59 PM
looks like a pigeon to me!
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: Reeves on April 27, 2004, 10:18:06 PM
A homer ? I'll get a Pigeon guy to have a look....
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: Nasal_Tufts on April 27, 2004, 10:32:40 PM
I'm the pigeon expert metioned above. Yes that pigeon is a racing homer. It's someone's pet if it's that tame to come into a cage. I'd just let it go. As a homer it can find it way home. The  "rock pigeon/rock dove" is no longer around. From the nice close up shots I can tell it's in real good condition so therefore I can rule it out as being a wild pigeon.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: Don McGowan on April 28, 2004, 07:29:23 AM
Attach a note to it's leg and send it on it's way !!     Or would that make it a carrier pigeon ??
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: Sterling-Ranch on April 29, 2004, 08:16:15 AM
I had a pigeon once as a pet.  They're neat.  He used to fly along side of my motorcycle to about 40-45mph then he'd peel off and go home.  I'd see him waiting on the telephone wires a couple of miles from home after work and he'd spot my motorcycle and come in to tag along home.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: CharlieHorse on April 29, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
I've had alot of people tell me that it is a "Homer" Pigeon!  And that it would have been someones pet of some sort.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: Nasal_Tufts on April 29, 2004, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: uplandhunter
Looks like a white beaked, red eyed, blue bodied,red footed, green specKled neck "pigeon". Hope that helps.




The beak is not white. The beak is black. The white part is the wattle. Also the color of the bird is black not blue. All pigeons have the green on the neck they also have a purple. It's called iridescence.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: komori35 on April 30, 2004, 12:01:35 AM
that, my friend, is a pigeon. and although i love quail, i must take this oppurtunity to express my strange attraction to pigeons.  i have, on more than one occasion, attempted to capture one.  it might've been someone's pet, it might just be very tame in nature, but all i can say is, WHY DONT I FIND PIGEONS ON MY DRIVEWAY?!?! some people have all the luck...

-komori
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: britguy33 on April 30, 2004, 01:03:34 AM
saw a pigeon looked just like that in town today. Standing in the middle of the road.
Title: Pigeon trap
Post by: Redhorse on April 30, 2004, 08:49:51 AM
Komori, pigeons are very easy to trap. Most farmers are more than happy to let someone put a pigeon trap in their hay loft. If that is not an option, a highway overpass is also a prime location. Any hunting catalog company that sells bird dog training supplies will have a standard pigeon trap for sale. It is basically a rectangular cage with an opening in each end. Across each opening is a row of bars hanging on the inside. You place seed and water inside the cage, when the pigeon walks in through the "door" those bars swing inward. They cannot swing outward because they hit the bottom edge of the door. You can get right into the pigeon business with one of those!  :wink: Check out the link below.


http://www.retrieverworld.com/products/pigeon_trap.htm
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: komori35 on May 01, 2004, 07:21:43 PM
thanks red horse...i was kind of joking around, but thanks all the same.  i have been looking around for bird traps (even though i dont have a barn to hang them in  :wink:  ) ill check out the site.  heehee...attention all pigeons, you have a new enemy...lol just kidding.  i think they're awesome id never kill one...anyway thanks again.
Title: ?
Post by: Redhorse on May 02, 2004, 12:00:43 AM
Just because I'm a hunter doesn't mean I kill everything in my path! The pigeon trap I'm referring to is a live trap which sportsmen (and nuesance trappers) use to capture live pigeons. I'm sure that more than one pigeon breeder has used the same device to capture wild pigeons for their pens. I mistakenly took your previous post as a sincere desire to keep pigions of your own. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :oops:
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: Reeves on May 02, 2004, 12:25:25 AM
:lol: As a young lad I used to go to local farms & capture Pigeons. Some to eat, cool looking ones to keep.  My Dad used to ask why I'd clean up "pests" birds from another place, only to put them in one of his barns  :lol:
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: emtp356 on May 02, 2004, 11:51:08 AM
that there is a racing homer the reason he was hanging around the drive way is he was taking a rest during his flight home some tome these birds are taken hundreds of mile away and let got to fly back home there appears to be a leg band on the bird it is used to time his flight
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: !BigHogLeg! on May 02, 2004, 02:26:30 PM
Hello,
   What is the band number? The owner can be traced through American Racing Pigeon Union. I doubt that they would want it back because it's a looser big time. I raise blacks in Louisiana and lost two the other day. I wouldn't want em back if you paid me. The only excuse for a bird not coming home would be hawk attack and that isn't even a good one. It does look like it's hungry. If you don't want the bird just feed it good and give it water and cut it loose again. It will most probably find it's way home on the second toss. If it hangs around just keep it. The bird looks like either a Black Eagle or a CBS Black. If it is a CBS Black the band should start with the letters CBS because they have their own suffix. The eye color of the pigeon is off so don't expect this to be a champion racer just because the thing has a band. It's a good chance that someone is out there raising wild pigeons and is banding them for the heck of it.
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: komori35 on May 02, 2004, 09:57:28 PM
ahhhh!  :(  no no red horse i mean...i know that, i didnt mean that. im really sorry it sounded like that.  i just thought if i didnt add the last bit on the end somebody would reprimand me for wanting to kill pigeons unecessarily (i am not referring to you reeves...just for clarification)...really really sorry... :oops:

anyway, i saw the site and im going to get a trap or two  :)  thanks for giving me the link

-komori
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: CharlieHorse on May 03, 2004, 08:50:44 AM
There is no leg band on this bird.  It appears to have taken a liking to my house. It got away from me the other day and it wasn't 10 minutes and it was back in the driveway pecking around. I put my cage out and tied my string to the door once again and caught once more. I'm going to have to haul it off somewhere and let it loose, it has made a mess on the roof of the house and I caught it on top of my truck also...........that's a big NO-NO!, it's lucky that I didn't get out the 12 gauge when it did that!!  The darn thing probably thinks this is home now and will keep coming back!
Title: LOL!
Post by: Redhorse on May 03, 2004, 08:31:47 PM
Trailboss, sounds like you are a proud new owner of a worthless racing pigeon. :?






Komori, no harm no fowl...wait, I mean foul. :wink:
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: duck nutt on May 04, 2004, 09:50:55 AM
i'm interested in catching pigeons for dog training....we don't have pigeons in barns around here, but i see them under bridges and on top of buildings in town...anybody have any trapping secrets?  for example, where would I place the trap for pigeons under bridges?...I have one across a creek 1/4 from my house, but don't have a clue about catching them..
Title: secrets
Post by: Redhorse on May 04, 2004, 10:47:59 AM
The key to trapping pigeons is to get the trap as close to where they normally roost as you can. The trap should be placed where the birds can see it easily from the roosting spot if it can't be right on it. There is normaly a ledge under a bridge or overpass where the birds roost, and the trap can be placed on it directly if there's enough room. The seed spread around in the bottom of the cage is a visual attractant to the birds. If they can't see it, you won't catch them, so keep that in mind when you are picking your spot. 8) Make sure there is plenty of fresh water in there especially if you keep your trap set during the heat of the summer, and check it at least twice a day during that time. If the weather is mild, and the birds have plenty of food/water in the trap, having a bird in the cage will help attract more birds! :wink:
Title: Can anyone identify this bird?
Post by: CharlieHorse on May 04, 2004, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: duck nutt
i'm interested in catching pigeons for dog training....we don't have pigeons in barns around here, but i see them under bridges and on top of buildings in town...anybody have any trapping secrets?  for example, where would I place the trap for pigeons under bridges?...I have one across a creek 1/4 from my house, but don't have a clue about catching them..



I'll sell ya one!!  A real nice Racing Homer so I'm told.......it will probably have rigormortis though if it doesn't move on down the road!!  You should be thankful that you don't have any in the barns........I never seen anything crap as much as this thing does......it rates right up there with geese.