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« on: February 22, 2009, 02:21:02 PM »

 s85  I have an approx. 1500 acre ranch in NE Nevada with plenty of water, cover and food. I am looking to find birds to use for family and friends hunts as well as trying to help re establish numbers on the ranch.

Where should I start looking or does anyone have any help with the direction ishould go/look.

Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 04:56:37 PM »

I'm a long way from ya there, but think chukars and ringnecks might be good, what is the terrain and climate where your at?
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 05:44:31 PM »


  Darren has a good point there, with the Chukar.  Scaled or Valley Quail, would probably be better than Bobwhites for an established population.  Although each additional species you try to raise requires quite a bit of additional outlay, I would use Bobwhites for you "hunts", since they can be raised more cheaply.
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What do you mean I have to press 1 for english.

« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 07:07:11 PM »

What native species are there now ?
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 10:38:02 PM »

high desert and at the foot of a mountain range. In the 4500 - 5000 foot altitude range.
Just outside of Elko, NV. I have lots of rolling hills, sage, grass, alf alfa, meadows, streams and springs and lots of cover.
Old timers say that pheasant were there for a long time, but were hunted out. They say the same about the quail.
There are a few quail  left (gamble or valley I believe). A few chukar and a few sage grouse.

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 08:37:30 AM »


The native game birds are Sage Grouse, Blue Grouse, Sharptail grouse, Mountain Quail, and Gamble's Quail. It's said to be arid and have an average rainfall of 7" per year.

The first reported transplant occurred on May 17, 1862 when 22 California quail were released in the Reno area. Since then, several species of have been successfully introduced into the State and have hunting seasons

Chukar (Alectoris chukar) , 

Hungarian partridge (Perdix perdix) ,

Ringneck pheasant (Phasianus colchicus)

Afghan whitewinged pheasants (Phasianus colchicus bianchii),

California quail (Callipepla califormica),

Scaled quail (Callipepla squamata),

Ruffed grouse (Bonasa umbellus),

Wild turkey (Meleagris gallopavo),

Himalayan snowcock/Snow Partridge (Tetraogallus himalayensis)
Location: Ruby and East Humboldt mountains of Northeastern Nevada




NDOW Offices http://www.ndow.org/about/contacts/index.shtm

Licenses & Laws - Special Licenses & Permits http://www.ndow.org/law/licenses/index.shtm

Have you looked at this yet ? Its on the website below
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-504.html#NAC504Sec461

POSSESSION OF LIVE WILDLIFE

License for Possession of Wildlife

      NAC 504.450  “License” defined. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)  As used in NAC 504.450 to 504.488, inclusive, unless the context otherwise requires, “license” means a license for the possession of live wildlife issued by the Department pursuant to NRS 504.295.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 2-28-94; A 5-22-97; R009-00, 4-3-2000)

      NAC 504.451  Application for commercial license: Availability; contents. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)

     1.  An application for a commercial license may be obtained from:

     (a) The headquarters of the Department; or

     (b) The regional offices of the Department in Fallon, Elko or Las Vegas.

     2.  The applicant must include on the application for a commercial license:

     (a) The name of the applicant;

     (b) The physical and mailing addresses of the applicant’s residence and place of employment;

     (c) The telephone numbers of the applicant’s residence and place of employment;

     (d) The driver’s license number of the applicant, if he has been issued a driver’s license;

     (e) The date of birth of the applicant;

     (f) The name, address and telephone number of the company or institution which the applicant is representing, if any;

     (g) A description of the purpose for which the wildlife is to be held;

     (h) The common and scientific name and the number of each species of wildlife:

          (1) To be obtained; and

          (2) Presently being held by the applicant, if the application is for the renewal of a license,

Ê for which the applicant is requesting the commercial license;

     (i) If the applicant is applying for the license for the first time, the name, address and telephone number of the person from whom the wildlife will be obtained;

     (j) If the applicant resides in this State, the location at which the wildlife will be permanently maintained;

     (k) If the applicant is not a resident of this State and he will be importing and displaying or exhibiting the wildlife in this State, a description of each location at which the wildlife will be displayed or exhibited and the approximate length of time that the wildlife will be displayed or exhibited at each location;

     (l) A complete description, including a diagram, of the holding facilities, cages or aquaria, as appropriate, that will be used to hold or confine the wildlife;

     (m) If the applicant has been convicted of violating the laws or regulations of any state or the United States Fish and Wildlife Service relating to the commercialization of wildlife within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the application, a description of each violation, a description of the penalty imposed for each violation and the name of the state in which each conviction occurred; and

     (n) The applicant’s signature and the date on which the application is signed.

     3.  In addition to the requirements of subsection 2, an application for a commercial license for a species of wildlife which is listed in NAC 503.110 must contain a description of:

     (a) The measures that will be used to prevent the wildlife from escaping; and

     (b) The methods and equipment that will be used to recapture or destroy the wildlife if it does escape.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 5-22-97; A by R168-99, 1-19-2000; R080-04, 8-25-2004)

      NAC 504.452  Application for noncommercial license: Availability; contents. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)

     1.  An application for a noncommercial license may be obtained from:

     (a) The headquarters of the Department; or

     (b) The regional offices of the Department in Fallon, Elko or Las Vegas.

     2.  An applicant for a noncommercial license must include on the application:

     (a) The name of the applicant;

     (b) The physical and mailing addresses of the applicant’s place of employment and residence;

     (c) The telephone numbers of the applicant’s place of employment and residence;

     (d) The driver’s license number of the applicant, if he has been issued a driver’s license;

     (e) The date of birth of the applicant;

     (f) A description of the purpose for which the wildlife is to be held;

     (g) The common and scientific name and number of:

          (1) Each species of wildlife to be obtained; and

          (2) If the application is for the renewal of a license, each species presently in captivity,

Ê for which the applicant is requesting a license;

     (h) If the application is an initial application, the name, address and telephone number of the source where the wildlife will be obtained;

     (i) The locations at which the wildlife will be permanently maintained;

     (j) A complete description, including a diagram, of the holding facilities, cages or aquaria that will be used to confine the wildlife;

     (k) If the applicant has been convicted of violating the laws or regulations of any state or the United States Fish and Wildlife Service relating to the possession of live wildlife within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the application, a description of each violation, a description of the penalty imposed for each violation and the name of the state in which each conviction occurred; and

     (l) The signature of the applicant and the date of the application.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 2-28-94; A 5-22-97; R168-99, 1-19-2000)

      NAC 504.454  Requirements for submission of commercial or noncommercial license application. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)  A completed application for a commercial or noncommercial license must be submitted to the Department at an address specified on the application together with:

     1.  A fee:

     (a) Of $15 for a noncommercial license; or

     (b) Of $500 for a commercial license;

     2.  A copy of any federal permits required for the species to which the application pertains; and

     3.  If the application is for a species listed in NAC 503.110, a copy of any:

     (a) Permit or license issued by a wildlife agency or regulatory agency in the state or country where the species originated that allows the possession of species specified therein, including viable embryos or gametes; or

     (b) Other documentation establishing lawful possession of the species, including, but not limited to, a document issued by a wildlife agency or regulatory agency of the state or country where the species originated that indicates a permit or license is not required for the possession of the species specified therein.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 2-28-94; A by R168-99, 1-19-2000; R138-03, 1-20-2004, eff. 3-1-2004)

      NAC 504.456  Expiration of license and application for new license. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)  A commercial or noncommercial license expires on June 30 of each year. If an application for a new license is not submitted to the Department on or before that date, live wildlife possessed pursuant to the expired license shall be deemed to be possessed unlawfully and may be seized by the Department. If an application for a new license, with no changes in the current license, is submitted to the Department on or before June 30, the current license remains in effect while the application is being reviewed by the Department.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 2-28-94)

      NAC 504.458  Terms, conditions and restrictions of license. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)

     1.  A person who holds a commercial or noncommercial license shall:

     (a) Comply with the terms, conditions and restrictions of the license.

     (b) Allow, at reasonable times, any person authorized to enforce the provisions of NAC 504.450 to 504.488, inclusive, free and unrestricted access for the inspection of wildlife and holding facilities.

     2.  Such a license:

     (a) Is not transferable;

     (b) May be suspended or revoked by the Department:

          (1) For a violation of any term, condition or restriction of the license; or

          (2) If it is found that the possession of any wildlife under the authority of the license is detrimental to any of the wildlife or the habitat of wildlife in this State; and

     (c) Does not authorize the taking, possession, transportation, importation, exportation or disposal of any wildlife in violation of any applicable federal or state law, any county or city ordinance, or any regulation adopted pursuant thereto.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 2-28-94)

      NAC 504.459  Possession of certain species of birds on private property without license; restrictions on disposition; documentation on transportation. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 503.597, 504.295)

     1.  A person does not need to obtain a license for the possession of wildlife to possess, propagate, breed or otherwise maintain the following species of live wildlife to be held in captivity on private property:

     (a) California quail;

     (b) Gambel’s quail;

     (c) Scaled quail;

     (d) Mountain quail;

     (e) Chukar;

     (f) Hungarian (gray) partridge;

     (g) Ring-necked and white-winged pheasant; or

     (h) Bobwhite quail.

     2.  Species of birds, and any parts and progeny thereof, which are possessed in accordance with this section must not be:

     (a) Sold, bartered or traded;

     (b) Released without the written authorization of the Department;

     (c) Hunted, except under the authority of a permit to train hunting dogs or raptors;

     (d) Captured or removed from the wild;

     (e) Imported into this State without an importation permit issued by the Department, unless:

          (1) The bird, or part or progeny thereof, is from a hatchery, dealer or independent flock that is an approved participant of the National Poultry Improvement Plan; and

          (2) The importation of the bird, or part or progeny thereof, is in compliance with the requirements established by the State Department of Agriculture pursuant to NAC 571.070; or

     (f) Placed on public display or maintained as a part of or adjunct to a commercial establishment.

     3.  A bird authorized to be possessed pursuant to this section may not be transported, alive or dead, from the private property where the bird is being held, unless the bird is accompanied by an itemized invoice which lists:

     (a) The species and the number of each bird to be transported;

     (b) The date on which the bird to be transported was acquired by the person possessing the bird pursuant to this section;

     (c) The name and address of the person transporting the bird; and

     (d) The name and address of the person who owns the property from where the wildlife is being transported.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 5-22-97)


NAC 504.460  Species which may be possessed and propagated. (NRS 501.105, 501.181, 504.295)

     1.  Except as otherwise provided in subsection 2 and NAC 504.459 and 504.461, the Department may authorize only the following species of wildlife to be possessed and propagated under the authority of a commercial license:

     (a) Chukar.

     (b) Hungarian (gray) partridge.

     (c) California quail.

     (d) Gambel’s quail.

     (e) Scaled quail.

     (f) Bobwhite quail.

     (g) Ring-necked and white-winged pheasant.

     (h) Indigenous reptiles and amphibians.

     (i) Mountain quail.

     2.  Subject to the limitations set forth in NAC 503.110, the Department may authorize the possession and propagation of:

     (a) Fish, crustaceans and mollusks under the authority of a commercial license.

     (b) Native and nonnative endemic species of fish, other than those species of fish listed in NAC 504.4595, under the authority of a noncommercial license.

     (c) Other species of wildlife under the authority of a commercial or noncommercial license, if the Department is satisfied, based upon an investigation conducted pursuant to NRS 503.597, that the importation and possession of that species will not be detrimental to the wildlife or the habitat of wildlife in this State.

     (Added to NAC by Bd. of Wildlife Comm’rs, eff. 2-28-94; A 5-22-97)


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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2009, 10:00:24 AM »

i've got all that info. This is only for private use. I am not interested in selling.
JUst having enough birds on the property to hunt and hopefully multiply.

Any idea where I can get quail and pheasant (preferable live) delivered to me?

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 01:48:04 AM »

I don't know if anyone delivers.

L-N-L Gamebirds
Charles Lizer
205 McNeil Street
Winnemucca, NV 89445
Phone:  (775) 304-2714
Email:  nevadabirdman at yahoo.com

J & L Game Bird Farm
Jerry or Mary O'Neal
P.O. Box 162
Gardnerville, NV 89410
Phone:  (775) 782-5055
Email:  mary.oneal2 at verizon.net


The Gamebird Farm
Wells ,  NV
(775) 752-3536


NDOW Offices http://www.ndow.org/about/contacts/index.shtm ought to have a list of Licensed game bird farms hatcheries/breeders/growers or may be able to point in a that direction. The Hunting/shooting preserves also may be of some help.  They sell birds they don't use.

Have you considered out of state options and having something delivered USPS ?

Are looking for mature birds, chicks or hatching eggs ?

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 10:06:41 AM »

those are close enough for me to drive to.  Is there a list of these business's?

Thank you very much
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 05:56:58 AM »


In posting these links, it's meant as a possible list of resources to ask questions if wanted .. 

These are hunting Business listings in Nevada .. they get their birds from some where, Right ?

http://www.gamebirdhunts.com/us-hunting/Nevada.asp

http://www.theoutfittersdirectory.com/Hunting/united_states/Nevada.htm



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