That Quail Place Forum
Our Member's Section => Off Topic Discussion and Current Event's => Topic started by: Reeves on July 31, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
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Bought this place three years ago & just look at all the good stuff I seem to have collected !
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The grey poles are 4" steel , used for gas lines. Most is heavy wall. There are 16 @ 15', some a bit longer. The smaller yellow pipe is 3". I'll use that to brace the three corner posts at each corner. My plan is to drill a 10" hole 6+ feet deep. Concrete them in. It will leave me 9' above ground.
Poles (pipe) between the corners will be put in with a hoe pack (some may have seen them on an excavator packing dirt, or some other type of vibrating packer).
I'll be collecting pipe till next spring break-up & then get all of it in place then. All told I'll be using about 200 to do the main place. I'll need a few more when/if I buy the small chunk of property to the south of my "barn yard".
I know of several places to get the pipe, and best of all ? It's free ! I'll be removing the plastic jacket, so the pipe will be just tar coated.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/polebarn2007.jpg)
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4"? A little bit overkill, but hey it's free! Have a few parts "connections" do you? :laugh: That steel ought to last you forever... ;)
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That steel is just the start. I have about 175ish of the 4"x15' & about 20-30 of the 3" to pick up yet !
Then find about 6k to buy the fence........
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I'd just like to have just one 4" piece about 7' long to put my cast iron horse head on that I've had for 2 years, while looking (scrounging) for a piece of 4" pipe that I didn't have to get a second mortgage in order to obtain it. :cry:
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I know, steel has jumped in price big time !
That heavy wall (grey pipe) sells for $20.00/meter(yard).
I have about 120-150m laying there - 2400. to 3000. worth of pipe - so far.
The one dark pipe is just plain pipe used for piles. It is only worth about $10.00m and is 8m long.
Not sure what the 3" is worth, maybe about $15.00m ? If so I have about $1500.00 sitting there.
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T-boss, found some more pipe, same as the grey in the picture, though not likely the heavy wall. 260m (780ft.) plus about 10 pipe pipe (un-coated) that is 20-25' long.
I was out looking for Saskatoons & to see if a big river near me was clear for fishing. I also worked on this job site a couple months ago ! It is within site of my place as well !
I've made the calls to see if they'll let me have it all......fingers crossed !
(about 6k worth of pipe !)
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You got quiet the stash there reeves! Do I see a future flight pen in the making?
Cant wait to see what you make :laugh:
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Yes, a future "flight" pen is being made in my head the last few days. I'll wait & see if I get the right pipe for the "project" before posting info/pics of it. Next spring ?
About the pile of pipe "found". It was given to the farmer who's land we crossed. Good news , I talked with him & it turns out he "owes" me a favor, as I let him store farm equipment in my pole barn for a year. Bad news on this, he is not the type to return such favors. No idea if I'll end up with any of it. (no sorage in the future for him, maybe !)
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Talked with the farmer that ended up with the 780+ feet of pipe. He will not part with it.
However, just finished another short pipeline & got two more pile pipe, about 20' each. Also 120' of more of the grey 4" pipe. A 10' section of chanel iron and about 10 "pups" (short sections of pipe) These can be welded onto the pile pipe, if needed when I put them into the ground. When you vibrate them in, you normally vibrate them in till they go no farther.
Only 350 more of the 4"x15' pipes to go.......(to do all 12 acres @ 15' spacing)
Start Monday on another 3km pipeline. I know I'll end up with a bunch, as the foreman & I get along well.
T-boss, if anyone is headed your way, I'll send a 7' piece to you.....unless you want me to mail it to you collect ? :laugh:
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That would be great. Might as well send 20' (two 10' will work) while you're at it. Upon receipt I will immediately send you a most generous amount of cash. :wink:
I might as well go out and find me a nice Locust tree and whittle it down with my trusty ole pocket knife! 8)
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That was COD for shipping costs ! Heck, I didn't want anything for the pipe !
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New project started.....The other day we were at the neighbors & they raise Mini horses. They talked about a new pen. So a couple days later I went over to see about where & how big of a new pen they are thinking of. Turns out he got called back drilling (oil/gas) so I thought I'd do them the favor of building the new pen.
Yesterday I cut up all the 3" pipe (which is actually 3.5 OD) into 10 @ 9' and 3 @ 11'. Today I'll be augering holes for the pipe , all being concreted in 3' deep. The posts will be 6'2" above ground, except the 3 @ 11', they'll be 8' above ground. This is for the lean-to on one end.
After the concrete sets for a few days, (I too got called back to work Monday for a 3km pipeline) I'll weld caps on top of all the pipe. On the tall pipe I'll weld a square U to hold the roof support, as well as the back 3 pipe. Bolt 2x4s every two(ish) feet on three sides, which tin will cover (same for roof).
I have a couple steel gates here, (like new, no rust) and the 8' one will be attached via drilling through a corner pipe, then fill it with concrete to make it more ridged/stable.
I also have a bunch of 9ga coated wire. This will be attached top and bottom to make the fence so it will not bend over (top) and help prevent critters from pushing in at the bottom.
She has to decide on leaving the yellow jacket on, or peel it off & have just tar coated posts. I also have the tar to touch up the pipe so it doesn't rust where needed !
Pen will be about 30'x60'.
Strong enough for a Grizzly......made for Mini horses :laugh:
(he will pay for this....I have a lot more fencing to do than him ! :laugh:)
(opps, just checked the weather report: T-storms all day/60%....looks like I'll be getting wet)
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You can come on down any time you want and help fence here, no horses but you know what these birds are like, never seem to have enough. :laugh: I was going to work on those 600sq' Averies today, rained all of yesterday p.m. and still raining. Guess i too am going to get damp.
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Rush like crazy, then slam the brakes on. Turns out there are two gas lines near by. They are calling Alberta First Call in the morning.
One day project just got a lot longer....
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WOW reeves is your aviary is going to be 12 acres! Thats amazing what are you going to be housing in this? Based on how nice your pens are now Im betting this aviary is going to be a mini paradise. I cant wait to see it!! Are you going to be planting it too?
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WOW reeves is your aviary is going to be 12 acres
You read something wrong ! :laugh:
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LOL :laugh: I was going to say what are you going to house in their a whole flock of ostrich or something. Owell I still want to see your flight pen when it's done!
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Going to be a while before I do this....unless I get all the pipe soon. I do know where I can get the gas pipe for this project. I will get 10 pipes, they are about 60' each. Bend as in picture. Auger 10" holes, 4' deep and concrete in. Spacing 10'. This will give me 3500 sq. ft.
I have already planted a row in an L shape, of Saskatoons. Next spring I'll do some more planting.
The area it is going is in a corner of where I'm placing chain link in the back yard, so the bottom 6' will be chain link all around, then netting (one inch) will cover the rest of the sides and top. The pipe is 3.5" OD.
Depending on room, I may only bend 8 pipes, which means I'll have 2800 sq. ft. (keep in mind this is for Peafowl)
The building will likely be in the area of 14'x14'. Need room for that male's tail !
I have many projects on the go, so this is not the high priority one. However, it will get done within the next two years.
I'm sure I missed details, but most of what will occur is still in the planning stage.
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Day late, dollar short. So the saying goes....
I made a call to an Elk Ranch that is getting out of them, as I was told there is fencing in rolls laying in the field next to them. They took down, next to new condition, about 6000' of fence (type I'll be needing) and it is all sold.
Good news is, they are taking down a bunch more next year. I'm on the call list for it !
Wish I had known about this a couple years ago. By now I could have had more in place & taken fence and a few Elk off of his hands !
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3 years ago, when feed was hard to get, I had a Rancher give me a 2yr.old bull for a 40 of Wisers Special Blend. Lots of empty Elk farms around Tofield. No market.
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Nice plan
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Though I can't tell much about the pen by that pic., I can say I am jealous just because of the measurements! :laugh: Peafowl? I remember seeing somewhere where you said you used to keep peafowl many moons ago... what species you planning on? I'll have to keep my eyes on this project... even if it's a couple more years before I see anything!
You plan on bending that pipe yourself, HE-MAN? :laugh: j/k I figure you have "connections" to people with all sorts of trades in your line of work... good luck getting ahold of some pipe and fencing.
Joseph.
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Not hard to "see" what it would look like, jk. End view is 8 to 10 of the shape in the picture, in a line. Depending on how stable it is when concreted in, I may run more pipe or some 9ga wire along at each of the three bends, to help support the top net.
Because one side will be along where the chain link will go in the back yard, one side will act as pen and fence. (I've not decided on where the house will go yet) Although I do not need to run chain link on the inside of the fence, the pen will look better with it around the whole bottom. Remember, the outside chain link will have the three foot buried like the rest (re: front yard).
Yes, have raised Peafowl several times. (I hate moving, they are such long lived birds !)
But I want Blackshoulder, wife wants Whites. Guess I'll be getting Whites :laugh:
No connections on a bending machine....yet. I want every one bent the same (fussy) so I'll get what I want, when the time comes (no HE-MAN stuff at my age and pipe size !)
No problem with pipe. I know where the above pen pipe will come from, and when !
With luck, I'll save a bunch of money on fence next spring, when the Elk farm sells off more of their wire....
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How you going to fit that bad boy in your yard, is what I'm wondering? :laugh: I understand the design now... please excuse the huge headache I have as a result of a heck of a first basketball practice.
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I have much yard :laugh:
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I have much yard
I too have much yard, sadly I have no steel pipe... :'(
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sadly I have no steel pipe...
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Hooked up the trailer when I got home tonight, more pipe tomorrow !
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Well t-boss, got some more worth-less pipe today. Bit of an interesting drive home ! I had maybe 5lbs tongue weight. At 60mph the trailer wanted to wander. Then took a "short cut" on wet slimy gravel roads, to avoid having to drive through town. At less than 30mph the trailer took off, side to side (nealy ditch to ditch). Slowed down. Important thing, the 1306lb load got home. This is what an 18' trailer looks like with 35' pipe on it :laugh:
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Well t-boss, got some more worth-less pipe today. Bit of an interesting drive home ! I had maybe 5lbs tongue weight. At 60mph the trailer wanted to wander. Then took a "short cut" on wet slimy gravel roads, to avoid having to drive through town. At less than 30mph the trailer took off, side to side (nealy ditch to ditch). Slowed down. Improtant thing, the 1306lb load got home. This is what an 18' trailer looks like with 35' pipe on it :laugh:
That's some nice stuff, the things I could create with that!
That's alot of leverage behind the trailer wheels! :eek:
I hauled a load of fill dirt home a couple weeks ago in a dump trailer that belongs to my brother, it is probably the biggest pull behind dump trailer I've ever seen built, It will haul way more than a 1 ton truck needs. Anyway, he who is a heavy equipment owner operator loaded it. The truck was kinda jack knifed where I had to park for it to be loaded, so he filled it up to what he thought the trailer could stand and still dump it, it was around 5 tons. So I pull out, started down the road and couldn't get passed 30 mph!! Then the State Highway Patrol comes up behind me :eek:, I was sweatin'!! I made it home........that was scary! I could hear the hitch working up and down and the darn thing was right on the edge of lifting the weight of the truck up. I could have knocked his block off! He knew better than that, I should have checked it myself before I pulled out, I thought that I could trust him to load it properly.....guess not. The next load I told him where to put the dirt and then I ran 65mph like it wasn't there! I've hauled 4-6 tons in that trailer many of times with no problems. I thought that I had 3 flats at first or somebody switched my truck out for a Toyota, but it would have never moved it if that were the case. :grin:
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Funny stuff guys do sometimes :laugh:
I was lucky on this drive home. No Police in the 3+ hour drive. Good thing, that load was not even remotely legal ! :laugh:
That is funny about loading ....I normally load off hwy trucks till they squeal (the drivers)
Trucks will handle it, but the drivers want to stretch the job out.
Can't wait for my buddy to haul clay for me, when I re-build my drive way ! He may quit ! :laugh:
(going to dig a pond/dug-out for the clay. Neighbor gets a land improvement for free)
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Just remembered an old memory....
My Dad bought a property for hunting. Anyway, he decided he needed a good size cabin on it. He loaded up his 3/4 ton Ford with wood. Good thing I went to check the load (Mom asked me to) and sure enough , she knew him well. The front tires were barely touching the ground ! I'm sure that when he let the clutch out, it would have ended up on the back bumper ! And he was going to drive it 3-4 hours (under normal driving conditions) to the property !
So I remove a bunch of wood, so the rubber stoppers have a wee bit of clearance on the axles.
He comes out to see I removed 1/2 the load and is much angry !
We had a number of "events" like that one.
Most times I'd get to check the load. Sometimes not.
He bought a D-8 engine (remember, these were the old, huge engines) and drove home with it.
When he got home he had the audacity to complain about the steering and the 4+ hour drive to get home ! (should only have taken an hour, with a properly loaded truck)
Funny thing is, we had a low bed we could have haule these things with.
I miss that funny old duck....
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This is what an 18' trailer looks like with 35' pipe on it :laugh:
I think we need a bigger boat (trailer) ! A very nice booty of pipe! :laugh: Funny stories, Reeves and TB.
Joseph.
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Boat trailer ?
What are you Yankees using down there to haul your Bass boats ?
That's a "car hauler". I even have ramps for it ! Heck, I even had a real car on it one time !
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Boat trailer ?
What are you Yankees using down there to haul your Bass boats ?
That's a "car hauler". I even have ramps for it ! Heck, I even had a real car on it one time !
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I think he was referring to the truck (boat)! :twisted:
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Ya, and that "boat" came from you Yankees. Thought about that the other day, truck from Kentucky, the trailer from Texas. I sure am supporting you folk !
I even work to help you folk heat your home & put fuel in your GMCs ! :laugh:
Start at a new job site this morning. I haven't heard what kind of pipe it is. Hope for steel, but it may be plastic ? Best thing, it is only a couple miles away !
I have to remember to bring the cold cutter home & cut that pipe into 15' sections. I may see if I can get the hoe here when the job is done. I have another idea on what I can do with some pipe....
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Boat trailer ?
What are you Yankees using down there to haul your Bass boats ?
That's a "car hauler". I even have ramps for it ! Heck, I even had a real car on it one time !
Have any of you northerners ever seen the movie JAWS ??? :P (quote from the movie)
I even work to help you folk heat your home & put fuel in your GMCs !
My chevrolet thanks you!
I have another idea on what I can do with some pipe....
... too lazy to type it out!? :laugh:
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Me ? Lazy ? Naw, just thinking it out....
Now this should get ya going t-boss ! I counted the pipe on the trailer , into 15' sections. I have 22 there, and 25 in the pole barn.
Now the cool part.....the boss asked me if I wanted the hoe for the long week end, since it is so close to me ! Job is only 2 miles away, as the crow flys !Needless to say I said a big YES!
It will have two buckets (digging and clean up) and also a hoe pack, for driving piles. The 45 pipes/poles leave me 7 short to finish phase one of the fence, six months ahead of time ! I know where I may be able to get my hands on 7 more though...
I also have some pile pipe that I'll use to extend the sides of my shop. This will allow me to park the boat (the real one) on one side and the trailer under the other side. Short 6 though....I'm thinking I can find them :laugh:
The land I have is fairly flat. So I'm going to see if I can track down a lazer to use, to make the fence line level, corner to corner. (ie: strip the sod about 6-8 feet wide and high spots)
I'm going to strip the barn yard. I know there is junk in there that needs to go. Build a swail in front of the pole barn so water drains away.
I'll be clearing another part of fence line on the north side as well. Next to the creek , for a few hundred feet. This will allow me to fence the Saskatoons in, so the darn Beaver quits cutting them down ! (haven't been able to "catch" all these loggers)
I'm sure by this weekend I'll think of more to do :laugh:
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Ain't that somethin'? I'd think that a guy could swing the extra cash for 7 measley posts?
Kinda puts me into thoughts of a fella who had the money to give $1,710,000 for the ranch of his dreams with a $1,710,995 price tag, yet refused to pay the extra $995!
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I'd think that a guy could swing the extra cash for 7 measley posts?
Only place to buy two joints (two full length pipe) would cost me $800.00.
THAT isn't going to happen ! :laugh:
I know where some lay on the ground : that farmer that doesn't want to give me any. What I'm going to do, if offer to replace them, as I want to get all this into the ground this weekend, while the hoe is here. Then I will not need the hoe next spring to finish the job.
After I finish a section of the yard chain link fence next spring, and put the game fence up, I'll be ready for new critters by the end of May. I also will need to collect (or buy) the pipe required to tie in all the corners, and to make the gates. But the important thing, the hoe work will be done. At least till my next project starts needing one.
Which will be to dig a pond for the neighbor, so I can re-build my lane way. The farmer that built it made it out of top soil, then put the pit run to it. It will always be mush when wet. I am going to put down filter cloth on top of it, then 2+ feet of clay, then 8-10" of 1.5"- crush. After that gets packed in for a year, top with 4-6" of 3/4 crush. Road will be bomb proof for life.
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geeez talk about overkill you believe in doing things RIGHT dontcha reeves? lol
Only way to do it !
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Well, I miss counted, and memory was faulty. I cut up the pipe on the trailer & there is 24. I have 25 in the pole barn. It will take 50.8 (51) to do phase one of the "Mammuthus primigenius" fence.
Also, I can make up posts by driving in one too short & weld a pup on it, to make up the hight. I have lots from 10' to 3' in length. Better to weld the pup on and drive that short end into the ground....
Now to find a lazer, but I have a plan in case none found.
Phase one pipe done.....only 350 more to finish the place......got the 50+ on three jobs. Looks like I may get it all done in my life time :laugh:
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But just think of the fun you can have when you're done.
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Reeves,
How come the company doesn't re use the pipe on other job site? What is this, a one time use pipe and then they dump it?
Is the customer paying for the once used pipe and if so, can he take possession of the pipe once the job has been completed.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Steve - it is common to have some extra full length pipe at each job. But to haul a 60' pipe back to the yard, which may be hours away, then to another job site, would cost more than it is worth. So it is commonly given to a local farmer, or whom ever asks for it. I jump on stuff like this.
Customer is always an oil/gas company. They too will not pay to haul a couple pipes around the country with a highboy/truck.
This year has been slow, and the yard had a bunch of pipe that should have been in the ground. If left in the weather too long, the plastic coating gets damaged : it's meant to be underground. It will also rust inside. At some point, it is too much rust to be used as a gas line (pressure).
Even gas lines in use will rust/corrode from water, and other corrosive agents in the gas. They pig them to clean them (a plug shot through with air) and inspect the line with a smart pig. These can detect any weak spots. When the line gets bad enough, they put a new line in, cut the old one off and cap them underground, and leave them in the ground.
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Thanks for the input on this. I've gained some knowledge from this.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Steve - I'll post more on the "patch" if you want. It would help if labcanman could add to it, but he may be away for a bit........he knows more about the patch than I ever will...
Volunteers required....I have yet to find a couple strong backs to help me put up the steel posts & piles. No "real" lifting required. I lift with the hoe, just have to hold in place while I place the hoe pack on top of the posts, then guide me to "pound" into the ground straight. (I want the fence line needle straight).
Going to be long day(s), if doing on my own.....
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I will help you with them you just have to pay for the round trip ticket. lol
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It'll cost ya a 10' piece of pipe for my help! If I had the time and the money........mainly the money, I could find the time if need be. I'd be on my way. I'd need what?.........about 3 weeks? :grin:
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Steve - I'll post more on the "patch" if you want. It would help if labcanman could add to it, but he may be away for a bit........he knows more about the patch than I ever will...
Volunteers required....I have yet to find a couple strong backs to help me put up the steel posts & piles. No "real" lifting required. I lift with the hoe, just have to hold in place while I place the hoe pack on top of the posts, then guide me to "pound" into the ground straight. (I want the fence line needle straight).
Going to be long day(s), if doing on my own.....
That would be a nice road trip. I haven't been on any vacation since May of 2000 when I move to WV.
Oh, I know why I haven't had a vacation, there isn't any one around worthy to take care of my birds, whether I pay them or them volunteering. Nobody ever show up.
If ya get a chance, post more on the patch..
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Sounds like it may be cheaper to buy a slave :laugh:
Got the machine home, worked it for a few hours already ! Man, can a small hoe ever do a lot of damage in short order :laugh:
Will be clearing fence line early in the morning. Want to get all set up for pushing posts in as soon as I can, then on to all the other jobs !
I have one helper lined up to hold posts. Would have been nice to have a couple more, as when I'm out of the hoe, it is not working. I'm thinking I'm going to loose at least 3/4 of a day because of this. Main problem is being new to the area & not knowing many people.
Also would have helped to know at lot sooner that I was going to have one here !
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On one side, there are not enough hours in a day, on the other, too many....tired, got lots done though.
Scared the crap out of my helper several times (wife). No big deal, she is just strung a little tight :laugh:
I got the corner posts in. I'd set the hoe up, holding a pipe on a sling. Then got her in the hoe to lower it, plus some small (and very slow) movements, with me telling her which controls to move while on the ground holding the pipe.
Going to string line in the morning to mark all the other post placements.
I have a lot more to do, three days will not be enough time to do it all.
No big deal, the hoe will be in the area for another couple weeks, so each time it will sit, I'll have it hauled here :laugh:
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On one side, there are not enough hours in a day, on the other, too many....tired, got lots done though.
Scared the crap out of my helper several times (wife). No big deal, she is just strung a little tight :laugh:
I got the corner posts in. I'd set the hoe up, holding a pipe on a sling. Then got her in the hoe to lower it, plus some small (and very slow) movements, with me telling her which controls to move while on the ground holding the pipe.
Going to string line in the morning to mark all the other post placements.
I have a lot more to do, three days will not be enough time to do it all.
No big deal, the hoe will be in the area for another couple weeks, so each time it will sit, I'll have it hauled here :laugh:
Soooooooooo where are the pictures of the project?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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:roll: This thread is worthless without pictures! :roll:
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correction!
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This post is worthless without pictures!
You mean yours ?
Or the steel ones ?
I also have about 1/3 of the old corral stripped of sod. Finding old tractor parts, nails & spikes, old shoe, glass, all along the old fence line. Going to be a mountain of the stuff: lots of hauling to do.
I'll take a shot or two when the poles are up....
The old corral posts were in some funny lines, meandering all over the place. Plus it was smaller. I went out to the property pins, so it will now be about 10+ feet more to the south, and 30+ more to the west.
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Apparently, I count poorly. 9 poles short to finish the field/barn yard. Plus I've decided to make changes to the north side fence. Right now most of that line is chain link. But the poles are too short and too small for big critters to be pushing on.
So when I get more poles(4.5") collected (24ish) I'll remove the chain link fence and put the big steel posts in and replace the 6' chain link with 8'.
The 6' will be used for the back yard fencing project next spring.
I finished stripping the old barn yard. There was tons of bailer twine, busted glass, metal parts & lots of other stuff. I'm sure more will be found when the soil is worked up. I also will need a truck to haul the mountain of sod I now have in the middle of the barn yard !
I'll be moving the stock water tank next time I have the hoe here. It will go into the north end of the pole barn. Where it is now would be a pain to check each day in winter.
I have worked the hoe 12+ hours each day, plus all the other stuff I had to do. Like stake out where the poles go, then haul them to each placement.....will not get all I wanted done this time.
Today (of course it rained most of the night) will be pushing in the poles (40ish) and cleaning roots out of the area I stripped around the north side bush/Saskatoons.
Going to be a long day.....
(I'll take a couple pictures later this week)
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Reeves,
I know what you are going through. I bought this farm back in May of 2000 and I am still cleaning the property and remodeling the house. Since this was an old zoo, there is old split rail fencing around the whole property and what is falling down I am removing. The real pain in the arse is that all the split rail fencing has chicken wire on it also.
The trash guys on Fridays really love me when I stack that garbage up. Most of inside of the barn still has old straw inside the stall and miscellaneous cages. Between working on the house and outside on the 15ac.and cutting grass, there isn't enough time in the day.
It's a good thing I didn't do any hatches this year otherwise, I wouldn't get anything done period. Last week I hauled over 12,000 lbs of slate from my creek with my Polaris Ranger 4x4 to one of my ponds in the back yard to cover up a culvert drain culvert pipe that is an over flow. This is now what I call fun in 90* weather.
I am taking today off and relax since it is a National Holiday for us Americans(Labor Day).
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
Have a nice day!
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This thread is worthless without pictures!
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I promise in the next couple days.....my legs do not want to work right now, from getting in & out of the hoe three million times today.
However, all went rather well. You look down the row & all you can see is the first pole: all very straight. I didn't have to use the hoe-pack, they pushed in OK, except 4-5 that I had to pound in (rock maybe). All in the ground 5.5 ft. or more, 9.5 above.
Had time to beedle down the road to the neighbors & push in 12+ 3" poles for their Mini horse corral I'm building for them.
Too many projects on the go, and winter is on the way !
The trash guys on Fridays really love me when I stack that garbage up.
Gotta love the country ! I dug a pit & put everything that will burn in it. I also put lots of stuff that will not. At some point of fullness, I'll cover it & dig another ! :laugh:
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I finished stripping the old barn yard. There was tons of bailer twine, busted glass, metal parts & lots of other stuff. I'm sure more will be found when the soil is worked up.
:laugh: My dad told me when he started messing around with our land, prepping it for the house, running septic tank lines, etc., he had a similar experience. Anyway, my grandpa owned all the land (and still owns a lot of land all around our 5 acres) and has owned it since the 1950's. Well, the family plumbing/heating & air business, my grandpa used to own as well. Sometime back in the late 60's/early 70's, he had a bunch of excess water heaters and dishwashers that he didn't have anywhere to put, so he dug a big pit and buried them on the land we now own. I think dad said there was a total of 13 water heaters/dishwashers that they dug back up about 17 years ago! :laugh:
There is a noticeable hump there, which I guess I should be thankful for as that is one of only a few spots where I have never seen water pool up when it rains 3+ inches in one day (all spots where my pens are don't "pool up" that bad whenever it rains just an inch or so), but, thanks to grandpa, that hump is where a couple of pens --the covered ones with corrugated steel all over them, for those that may have seen pictures of them before-- are sitting today ! :laugh: I actually found a few miscellaneous water heater parts (thin sheet metal, a couple heating coils) when I was "prepping" that location...
Gotta love the country ! I dug a pit & put everything that will burn in it. I also put lots of stuff that will not. At some point of fullness, I'll cover it & dig another !
Have fun burrying goodies for your descendants to find, Reeves! :P
Joseph.
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As per t-boss's DEMANDS, I spent hours taking pictures, edit them. Then Photo Bucket, edit to forum size (so if they do not show well, blame him :laugh:) I'm only posting 4 now....
In this first picture , I took the picture on the way to work this morning, from the road, creek is in the foreground, just out of the picture. You are looking (sort of) N.E. at the south side of my place. Monster pile of sod to haul away!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/sept42007NE.jpg)
This next one is looking (sort of) north, along the west side of the place. I kept some small Poplars inside the barn yard. I still have some dirt work to do before seeding....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/sept42007Nandwestside.jpg)
This next one you are sort of looking north. The chain link will be torn down, then the big steel posts put in, then replace the 6' chain link with 8', plus another 3' under ground. Truck is parked in the 20' 6" gate area. All gate and corners are heavey wall pipe. I'll be welding in braces in this shape (/) to about 2' from the top on the corner post, to one foot above ground on the brace post.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/sept42007NEgate.jpg)
This next one is looking west, along the south end of property. You can see the stock tank, but it will be moved into the west end of the pole barn at a later date. Want it closer to check on in the winter months, plus protect from the sun during summer.
And yes, I trespassed out of my place ! Had to clean it up, as it will be purchased at a later date. Plus we get along ! Lots of dirt work to do yet....going to get a lazer & re-shape the whole area....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/sept42007W.jpg)
All poles are 5'6" minimum in the ground. Some poles were longer, but no need to trim down, so a few ended up about 8' in the ground, but only corner posts.
All are 9'6" above ground.
I know I was 9 short on my original plans, but with re-building the chain link, I'm about 20 short to finish it. Plus I have to get the gate built and powder coated.
Each corner has 3 heavey wall grey plastic coat. This will stay. The yellow jacket and all posts but ends/corners will be stripped and be just tar coated (which is what is under the plastic jacket on all the pipes).
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Reeves,
Must be nice to be able to work on flat land. The Job looks good!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Thanks Steve !
Yup, land is fairly flat. Would have been even more flat if I had a lazer this past weekend ! It really should have been worked before the poles. It will be harder to shape now the poles are in place....
Also, the line in the last picture, goes two more poles, down into the creek. Plan on fencing right to creek edge, to (help) prevent critters (Deer and Coyotes) from using it as a travel lane.
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Reeves,
If I were to even consider fencing my perimeter it would be more then a task for me. I don't have any flat area on the three sides of my property. The only half way flat is along my creek. The rest runs up hill from a minimum 15* to 30*and I have three huge gorges that rain water run of the mountain down into my ponds. There is some cattle fencing and barb wire that is there but most of it is down do to tree falls and rust. Just to haul repair fencing up is a real pain in the arse.
Also I think any fencing in my state above 6 foot has to have at least one open area to let the states wildlife to come and go. Any totally enclosed area (property perimeter closure) has to have the DNR approval and all wild deer removed from the property, since it is illegal to harbor wild deer in my state.
I would venture on at least $70,000.00 plus to do the permeter on the 15ac. from a commercial contractor who knows what they are doing.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Reeves,
picture taken from up a hill behind the barn.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Side view of barn
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Top wooded area back 15ac.
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on the hill looking towards the pond
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I'd trade my place for yours in a heart beat !
You must see tons of game passing through ?
Also I think any fencing in my state above 6 foot has to have at least one open area to let the states wildlife to come and go. Any totally enclosed area (property perimeter closure) has to have the DNR approval and all wild deer removed from the property, since it is illegal to harbor wild deer in my state.
Here, with the proper fencing and permits, you can keep Elk, Mule Deer, White Tail Deer, Bison etc. But the only Province in Canada where you cannot keep Fallow Deer. You can have many different species of other exotics as well. But as you said, no "wild" ones.
Alberta Ag has to approve the fence & land.
As far as fencing, I didn't look into any permits. Normal for me :laugh:
I'm told I need a permit to push poles as deep as I did, but I strongly doubt anyone will dig up one to see how deep they really are !
I would venture on at least $70,000.00 plus to do the permeter on the 15ac. from a commercial contractor who knows what they are doing.
I was thinking mine would have cost about 20-30k if someone put mine up. May very well been very wrong on that number ! But all the posts I'll put in will be steel, and free. Plus the hoe to push them in is free. My only costs will be to buy the fencing.
With your land being up to 30 degrees slopes, I'm thinking you have rock not far under the top soil ?
I may not know much about fencing, but I have seen many ! I also know I'm over-killing big time ! But I'm thinking down the road, it will raise the price of this place a huge amount.
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and where is t-boss ?
Sulking about all that steel rusting in the ground ?
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Niiice work! :laugh: Looks great... Next thing on the list after the fence is a guard tower, then a bunch of illegal firearms, then you can hire mercenaries! :laugh:
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Reeves,
Some pictures of the deer at the house.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Deer out my bedroom window in the morning.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Here is an 8 pt out the bedroom window.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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When I first bought this place, it was common to see 10-12 White Tail and/or Mule Deer in the yard each day, sometimes bed down for the night.
Wife said "NO SHOOTING Deer in the yard, or they won't come back"!
By the end of the second summer, she told me I could shoot as many as I could !
They get into her gardens, wreck trees etc :laugh:
Still haven't taken one. But one reason for the big fence, is to keep them out. Healthy (and fat) Mule Deer here. Next place south of here feeds silage all winter to his cattle. So they spend the winter at his place. Many locals tease him about "his" herd of Deer !
I see he reciently put up a dozen grain bins. He may have needed to keep more grain over the winter for his herds of cattle and Deer :laugh:
The Muley that spent the hot months in my pole barn was/is a nice one. It was hard to tell how nice he was going to be, as last time I saw him he was still in velvet. 4x4 for sure, haven't seen him lately to see how much bulk.
Also had two (smallish) Bull Moose spend a few weeks in the field next to me. Cool to see, although the damage they likely caused to the barley will not impress the farmer :laugh:
Side note, Steve, a place much smaller than yours , next road over from me went this summer for 525k. Another place just up the road is going for 420k, and it is smaller than my place, nicer home though.
If you could move your land here, you could likely get enough to retire !
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This thread has too many pictures for dialup! :evil:
Now that is a fence! Very nice Reeves, very impressive. Are you sure that isn't some sort of government project and you're taking credit for it? :angel: How do you install the razor wire without getting all chewed up?
I'm like "Pheasant Hollow", it's a major undertaking around here to just put up any kind of fence, straight-up and down, valleys, trees, etc. I sometimes wonder how they used to do it without all the fancy equipment that there is nowadays?
and where is t-boss ?
Sulking about all that steel rusting in the ground ?
:angel:
LOL! Been very busy. Kids are back in school and now it's all me, me, me!!........and quail! :grin:
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I just patch my fence and when the land sells next to me I let the new land ownes pay for the new fence. LOL YEP thats right, they pay for it!!! I only need someone to buy the land north of me now and all the fence will be fairly new.I've been asked to split the cost before but as far as I see it if the fence keeps my horses in its good.They are building a new (the only one around for miles) housing track right behind me.These house are going to cost millions and I think the developer can pay for the fence since my taxes are going to go threw the roof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its going to mess up my hunting too!!I'm ticked so I hope they like guns. I take my dog out at least every other day and the shotgun goes too.If they start shooting my Quail its going to be all out war. LOL
OOPS I got off track. Very nice fence you have going there Reeves.
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murphys42002,
Your location is listed in your profile, where are you located?
They are building a new (the only one around for miles) housing track right behind me.These house are going to cost millions....
How far behind your house? What are the property sizes going to be of the development? How big is your property?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I am in Fredericksburg TX. It's about 60 miles NW of San Antonio.The houses are going to be on about 9 acre tracks.We are on 130 acres.I would say the closes lot to me would be about 200 yards away from my house.
1 wife 2 boys 2 cats 3 dogs 4 horses and 52 quail with 150 quail on the way.LOL Just a lil extra.
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I get the hoe for another day or two, so will be able to haul away the sod pile sooner than expected !
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You guys are getting tired of my barn yard, but so what ! :laugh:
Sometimes "free" costs you time/work. All the people that can haul for me are busy hauling grain crops. And the ones with dump trucks want to get paid ! What State do they think they live in ? :laugh:
So I spent the day moving the sod pile out of the barn yard, onto the property I want to buy. One day I'll have to deal with it again. Of course, as I mentioned, the dirt work should be done first: had to go over the fence poles...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/barnyard2sept07.jpg)
I also discovered why the original owner's lad is well "adjusted" ! Out behind the pole barn, I can see in minds eye how the boy was taught the lessons he would need in life....
Found in the dirt after stripping the final section of sod....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/barnyard3sept07.jpg)
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What is that?....a pool stick guide? :grin: The lad must have become a pool shark?
That looks like alot of fun, I could use one of those track hoes for a couple days. The backhoe "attachment" for the tractor gets alot done, but it's nothing like the real thing. Looks as if the sun is laying way down toward the horizon.......cold is near? High of 67 here tomorrow, 80's and 90's past few weeks, it will be nice for a change...............for a little bit anyway! I want to go ahead and order about 12 inches of snow for the last week in november (deer season), the no more until March, then I'll take about 3 feet for 3 days just for fun. :wink:
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Looks as if the sun is laying way down toward the horizon.......cold is near?
Took the picture at about 6PM. Yup, cold has been here ! Had to bust a quarter inch of ice in the water dishes 3-5 times so far, in the last week. Time to get out the heated dishes !
That looks like alot of fun, I could use one of those track hoes for a couple days.
You have no idea what fun you can have changing "stuff" on your property with a real hoe ! New ideas pop up all the time !
With all I have to do over the next couple years, I really should buy one.....all it would cost is a measly 250-300k ! :laugh:
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Three days spent in the barn yard with the excavator has put me a year or two ahead on this project. Also made me one tired puppy ! I moved/extended the water line out past my fence, in case I end up with that 4 acres to the south. Or the land owner ever puts cattle out there of his own, he will have water and power. I also spliced into the water line farther back and ran water into the pole barn. Next spring I'll build the concrete base for the stock tank.
I also dug a trench out to the creek & put steel pipe in it, so no open trench is needed to drain the whole area now. Before, water had no place to go. It was low in the barn and in the yard part. Now all shaped so it all drains down the pipe !
Saw a brick, the red type for houses, so I "loosened" it with the hoe. Turns out to be a "pit" with lots in it, plus fire ash. I'm thinking it is the site of an old house, even though the original owner says nothing was there. It also explains why there is so much glass and nails in that area. I have a couple 5gal pails with junk so far !
Well, it's a work day (paid type) and I still have an hours work to do at the neighbors with the hoe....as soon as it gets light, before they come get the hoe : another long day !
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Well, Reeves you are one Lucky, Hardworking Guy :laugh:
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It is amazing what you can dig up with a machine like that.
Reeves: I also dug a trench out to the creek & put steel pipe in it, so no open trench is needed to drain the whole area now. Before, water had no place to go. It was low in the barn and in the yard part. Now all shaped so it all drains down the pipe !
Does the area in which you live, have any regulations as far as drainage ditch's/culverts/pipes emptying out into a stream, creek or river? The regulations here in WV are crazy. The drainage lines on my farm were pre-existing prior to purchase. Anything new going into my creek has to be approved and would likely be denied.
I have a problem with my property washing out along the creek when it floods. If I wanted to put any bulk heading or concrete sides I would have the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection along with the State Department of Natural Resource down here in a heart beat, not to mention the Army Corp of Engineers.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Does the area in which you live, have any regulations as far as drainage ditch's/culverts/pipes emptying out into a stream, creek or river?
Likely. But only if you ask :laugh:
On my papers, the gas co. and other papers, it reads as a "drainage ditch". So no real rules.
However, back many years ago, clay was needed to build road. So using buggies (scrapers) Cats etc, they dug this "drainage ditch". Not sure if it was done then, or some farmers decided to do it, but the ends of this ditch were dug out to straighten the creek. This in turn opened up land on the other side of the road, as the creek meandered all over the field .
I've done a couple things along this "drainage ditch" that my end up biting me down the road. I guess it all depends on who drives past & sees it all. Also had some guy tell me to get a "permit" to build my fence. I asked a couple local farmers about this & they told me there is/was no such thing as a permit to build a fence.
I guess I learned a couple "bad habits" from Dad :laugh: I remember him saying the fine cost less than the permit , and a lot less trouble. Of the hundereds of ponds/lakes he built, I don't remember him ever getting a permit :laugh:
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It's always easier to say...... "I'm Sorry". Once something is there, it's hard for them to do anything about it. WV is crazy with their laws.....or Ohio is very lax? We bulldoze anywhere, build houses and buildings, build ponds, even log the woods right up against the city limits and don't ask or tell anybody. They're working on making it more like WV everyday. I've had a plumbing and electricians license for 17 years, then the state changed the rules and my licenses aren't worth squat now, unless I fork over a bunch of $$$ and do this and do that! :x: Luckily, I don't do enough of it now to need them.
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It's always easier to say...... "I'm Sorry". Once something is there, it's hard for them to do anything about it. WV is crazy with their laws.....or Ohio is very lax? We bulldoze anywhere, build houses and buildings, build ponds, even log the woods right up against the city limits and don't ask or tell anybody. They're working on making it more like WV everyday. I've had a plumbing and electricians license for 17 years, then the state changed the rules and my licenses aren't worth squat now, unless I fork over a bunch of $$$ and do this and do that! :x: Luckily, I don't do enough of it now to need them.
Building permits are needed in the city limit. They tried to get that enforced out in the rural and farming communities. Needless to say that never happened. You can still build on your property and their are really no codes enforced. The only thing you have to get an inspection on is the septic system.
In Long Island, NY. You needed a permit to change any structure, build a house, change windows, and the list just kept going. At each stage of building a new house, or renovation, you had the town or local county come and inspect ever stage. So, after the the foundation was dug, you had an inspector check before the footings could be poured. Same thing with the framing, electrical, plumbing/potable and sewer, insulations, and sheetrocking and taping. Then the final inspection before you can get the "Certificate of Occupancy" if in any stages of the renovation or new building didn't pass, you had to correct the problem and get it re-inspected before you could proceed.
Anything that was pre-existing just got a "Certificate of Compliance".
So WV, as far as I am concerned is quite lax-ed out in the farming and rural communities.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Like I said, I have Moose in the yard :laugh:
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Like I said, I have Moose in the yard :laugh:
Can ya get a destruction permit. and when is dinner? I was yelling at the deer in my yard this morning eating the flowers. The deer gave me a dirty look and kept on eating.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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The deer gave me a dirty look and kept on eating.
:laugh:
We too have to actually chase them to get the Deer out of the yard !
When I get my fence done, that will keep them out....but.....what am I going to put inside the fence ? Deer or Elk :laugh:
I must be off my meds :laugh:
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ELK!!! Reeves I have wanted to raise elk for a couple years now and I have done quite a bit of research on raising them. We were going to fence in some acreage and get some, but then my dad's company went bankrupt and he had 40% pay cuts, so there is were are elk money went. Anyway good luck!
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If i had that kind of land and "fence"(hehe ;))...I'd have me some wild boars and deers. yum yum! Just throwing out ideas for Reeves. :laugh: Or you could just settle for Ostriches. lol :laugh:
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No pigs. Of any kind ! Too much damage. No Deer. There are an abundance in the area. No chickens that I have to look up into their eyes ! When I moved here 3 years ago, there was three Ostriches in the local paper for free , and I passed them up.
I had wanted Fallow Deer, but Alberta is the only Province in Canada where you cannot have them (still haven't found out why).
So that leaves Elk. Very good meat ! When the Bull bugles the hair on the back of your neck stands up !
Moose would be cool, but if I remember right, they need a special diet. Not sure I want a Bull Moose in rut anywhere near the place. They are not real smart at that time of year :laugh:
Maybe just grow grass & turn a bunch of huns loose !
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Maybe just grow grass & turn a bunch of huns loose !
Why not cover your yard (a.k.a. "compound") with flight netting and let a dozen or so huns run loose? :laugh:
j/k (unless you like that idea?) I'd go for the elk, since you can't keep Fallow Deer... they may serve as an unwanted alarm clock during certain times of the year though, but who cares, they're cool! :laugh: :angel:
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Why not cover your yard (a.k.a. "compound") with flight netting
Cannot find enough free netting !
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What do you think about these ?
http://www.albertareindeer.com/
I know I've eaten the meat. Cannot remember what it was like.
However, they are an "odd" critter.
Big antlers.
Never seen a farm here with them. (or anywhere)
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Nearly done one of my "projects". Spent the last 4 days trying to completely do it. I have some trim work to do and a door, on the lean-to.
I may also put chain link on the gate.
All done mostly on my own. I had a fella hold the pipe when I pushed it in, and the wife fetched tools one day & a couple hours on another day.
All the boards attached to the steel pipe were counter sunk, pilot drilled, then drill 5/16" then tap for 3/8" bolts.....75 bolts. All other wood attached with 3" coated deck screws.
Pipe will one day be trimed off & a cap welded on top of each one. 9ga coated wire top & bottom of the chain link. Bull rings to attach to chain link to the wire.
Lots of other small details not mentioned....
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Forgot to mention, all this is for the neighbor's Mini horse stud.
Now he owes me, and will have to help me with my fencing !
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I was going to say that pen is pretty small for any elk or something else with antlers. It would go against your philosophy of having as big of pen as you can. :laugh:
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against your philosophy of having as big of pen as you can.
That pen is way smaller than what I had wanted to build: nope, can't cut that tree. Nope, have to leave that area open "just in case". etc
They have acres and acres of land, but cut costs at the price of small pens. Hard to break old farmers from old habits.....
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Ya I know, when I was interested in raising elk they suggest pens that are 5+ acres atleast and that is just for a few elk.
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Been a while since I looked at this topic...
Turns out that for Elk, Mule Deer, White Tail Deer, Moose you need a licence/permit for them from Ag dept.
For Reindeer and Fallow Deer you have to go through F&W for some kind of "temp" permit.
For the first mentioned, min. 10 acres. I have yet to find out if the same applies for the second set.
Not sure when I'll call F&W for them to have a look , as I want some grass to grow on a bunch of the work done here first :angel:
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Finished another job near home, ended up with enough pipe for 3 more poles. Plus 20' of 8" channel iron. No dea why they would give so much away, but I'm sure I'll come up with a use for it !
Sorry Charlie !
(wasn't there a commercial about that regarding tuna ?)
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Forgot to mention....neighbor was by today to use my trailer, he mentioned another neighbor asked if I was raising Mule Deer inside the big fence....as there were 14 of them inside the corral area !
He told him no: no fence up yet :laugh:
Saw 8-9 in the back yard a couple days ago. They are moving around now !
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Sorry Charlie !
(wasn't there a commercial about that regarding tuna ?)
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:roll: You're one funny guy!! :x
I ask a friend the other day, where I could get a part for my 50 year old Ferguson plows, and he said, "Tough S&!t Charlies". I said, "what?" He said, "Yeh, Tough S&!t Charlies"! .........finally he said, "Tractor Supply Company", "TSC". He said anything you need, they never have, so there answer is always............"Tough S&!t Charlie!" :eek: Too bad that he's right!
Finished another job near home, ended up with enough pipe for 3 more poles. Plus 20' of 8" channel iron. No dea why they would give so much away, but I'm sure I'll come up with a use for it!
Don't know what scrap steel prices are up there, but down here, nobody would give anything like that away. They're stealing wire and plumbing right out of houses, A/C units, siding off of trailers, etc., etc. Some autos, farm equipment are worth more for scrap steel than they are for parts or restoration. We're gladly willing to ship it over to those %$%$! Chinese so they can build tanks, guns, aircraft carriers for themselves and their buddies, then the other cheap junk they turn around and sell it back to us, and then we're dumb enough to buy it. History has it, that the Japs bought up all the steel too, right before they bombed Hawaii. :???: :grin:
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I was talking to the owner of a welding shop in town this summer. He said a person can make more on scrap metal if put into a sea can (steel trailer for shipping by sea) and send to China , than sending it one hour away to the city.
This crazy need for metals has drivin the cost for any steel through the roof !
No need to worry: I have no plans on bombing Hawaii !
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No need to worry: I have no plans on bombing Hawaii !
:roll: LOL!! Although, they probably said that too?! ......eeeh? :???:
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Don't let kids drive a Golf Cart if you smell gas under the seat
I really hope the story is not a bad one !
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Don't let kids drive a Golf Cart if you smell gas under the seat
I really hope the story is not a bad one !
Well, :grin: This is what I was doing................. :
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................when this is what was happening just at the edge of the field earlier this summer. And,....yes!.....you can put out a (some) fire(s) with a straw hat and a boot with 2 tablesspoon of water in it! :eek: It belongs to my youngest boy. Ironically, I had just given both of them a "pep talk" on what to do if that thing ever would catch on fire about 2 hours prior to the inferno (this thing had an exhaust leak too, we had been fixing it up one piece at a time). The slight odor of gas that I had smelled earlier prompted the pep talk, yet I wasn't sure what it was from because of the other things I had been doing with gas at the time. If I had not been around, it would have been gone, I hadn't ran that fast for years. I past those boys up as if I where the "FTD Man". Straw hat is still good, just a few burn marks! It was a good learning experience for them, now they know just how fast and easy things can go to hell ! :wink:
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Lucky lads ! Could have been much worse !
You get paid for working when home ? :laugh:
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I had wanted to post about the new pipe here....couldn't find it (then) !
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Hey Reeves,
Any new acquisitions on the pipes lately??? Did you finish the property perimeter ?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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No new pipe, not finished.
Good thing I'm not in a hurry, eh !
I do have contacts for the pipe to finish though.....
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Bump....because I can and don't want to try and find it again ! Even though I don't think this is the topic I am looking for !