That Quail Place Forum
Raising Gamebirds => General Discussion => Topic started by: 14Yoquailfarmer on June 04, 2006, 11:50:56 PM
-
i was hoping some one can help me figure out what to use for my breeder feed and grower. i hope there isnt a post on this all ready i can do what ever works needed like grinding or mixing i dont care just want the best
-
WOW??????? and we get to spend 8-12 thousand dollars a year per student on education simply amazing
-
yea not sure about the question myself.
Do you mean mix stuff from scratch?
-
no what i should use but if need be i can casue i have time on my hands schools out your guys spell check dosnt work on my computer im really sorry i have been working on it but i am also larning touch typing and some tme i push the wrong key
-
Grower feed can be reduced in protein to around 20% after about 5 or 6 weeks to fatten them up. My breeders get 24-25% making sure I have enough calcium in the mix to give me shells. You can feed growers a higher protein, but they will fatten up quicker with more carbs. Seems it works on people too!!!
I'd have to ask the moderator, but you may need to enable Java for the spell checker? I'm pretty sure it runs from one of the "helper" applications.
-
thanks very much but to fatten them can i use crack corn and some thing else for a grower
-
i was hoping some one can help me figure out what to use for my breeder feed and grower. i hope there isnt a post on this all ready i can do what ever works needed like grinding or mixing i dont care just want the best
I have never witnessed nor seen in print, such a disgrace in the English language before in my life. This is also after he/she had the opportunity to edit his/her post.
For the life of me, I just don’t know what woundering is. Care to elaborate?
WOW??????? and we get to spend 8-12 thousand dollars a year per student on education simply amazing
Yes, simply amazing isn’t it, and for a 14 year old too boot! I would be ashamed to continue posting until I have learned the English language to some extent, and some form of proper spelling or at least spell the words phonetically. no what i should use but if need be i can casue i have time on my hands schools out your guys spell check dosnt work on my computer im really sorry i have been working on it but i am also larning touch typing and some tme i push the wrong key
I would suggest that next time you either decide to start a new topic or reply to a post/topic, to use your computers Microsoft Word program to correct the Spelling and Grammar .
Grower feed can be reduced in protein to around 20% after about 5 or 6 weeks to fatten them up. My breeders get 24-25% making sure I have enough calcium in the mix to give me shells. You can feed growers a higher protein, but they will fatten up quicker with more carbs. Seems it works on people too!!!
I'd have to ask the moderator, but you may need to enable Java for the spell checker? I'm pretty sure it runs from one of the "helper" applications.
Moderator? There are no moderators here. Never have and there is really no need for them. This is a self cleansing site.
Are you also trying to confuse him/her even more? Paying attention in school should be the first order of business and second, he/she should be using Microsoft Word to write his/her replies to posts or starting new topics. Once he/she has done this, all that is left is to use the spelling and grammar tool bar for any corrections.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
-
hay dude sorry but could you litten up on me i really sorry but thats not going to help making fun of me
-
hay dude sorry but could you litten up on me i really sorry but thats not going to help making fun of me
I'm afraid you didn't help yourself with that comeback.
"Hey Dude, sorry but could you lighten up on me? I'm really sorry, but that's not going to help by making fun of me"
John
-
Okay Pheasant Hollow Farm, I should have said Administrator.
I think it is time to invoke "Thumper's Rule," (See Disney's Bambi).
-
ok guys i wont post unless i go thru micro solf word ok but please stop making fun of me i get great grade but not in spelling but i try
-
hay dude sorry but could you litten up on me i really sorry but thats not going to help making fun of me
I'm afraid you didn't help yourself with that comeback.
"Hey Dude, sorry but could you lighten up on me? I'm really sorry, but that's not going to help by making fun of me"
John
John,
You have been promoted to editor in chief / rewrite editor for the spelling/grammar impaired.
hay dude sorry but could you litten up on me i really sorry but thats not going to help making fun of me
What part of Microsoft Word don’t you understand? You need to spend more time with your schoolwork then worrying about raising game birds.
Okay Pheasant Hollow Farm, I should have said Administrator.
I think it is time to invoke "Thumper's Rule," (See Disney's Bambi).
woodenegg,
I am sorry, but I think it is time to invoke "Thumper's Rule," (See Disney's Bambi). Care to elaborate, it has been a long time since Bambi.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
ok guys i wont post unless i go thru micro solf word ok but please stop making fun of me i get great grade but not in spelling but i try
You should have type this in Microsoft Word prior to posting!! You get an F for spelling and grammar along with punctuation. You don't even get an "E" for effort.
JohnInDixon,
John. would you do a rewrite on this?
ok guys i wont post unless i go thru micro solf word ok but please stop making fun of me i get great grade but not in spelling but i try
I guess the Karma Fairy will hit me hard for this!! I was a 9 went to an 8, and only Karma knows now for sure......
Thanks!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
-
In a conversation with Bambi, Thumper's mom gently reminds him of a rule. Thumper quotes the rule, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!"
It comes down to common decency.
-
I've got to tip my hat to 14Yoquailfarmer. Through all this harassment, he has kept a civil tongue.
-
Ok everyone calm down... He must have gone to school in Dixon!
Pray for him and watch it get better...
John
-
14yoquailfarmer, just curios where are you from?
Ks_frm_boy
-
In a conversation with Bambi, Thumper's mom gently reminds him of a rule. Thumper quotes the rule, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!"
It comes down to common decency.
Thank you for the Thumper Rule! My responses to 14yoquailfarmer were not intended to be a flame, but more on the communication side. If he/she cannot communicate on an entry level at the age of 14, he/she will more then likely never be able to as an adult on any BBS.
If he/she thinks they have it hard now, try going to some other BBS and see what happens. He/she is getting off easy here.
I've got to tip my hat to 14Yoquailfarmer. Through all this harassment, he has kept a civil tongue.
I am suprised. Then again, if the foal language was to appear, his/her ticket would most likely get punched.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
-
I am suprised. Then again, if the foal language was to appear, his/her ticket would most likely get punched.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
"I am surprised. Then again, if the foul language was to appear, his/her ticket would most likely get punched"
Like that?
-
Thank you John!
That is my NY X WV accent showing.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
-
I suppose if you can foal, he can wounder. ;-)
-
why i havnt said bad words was i think you guys are trying to help and you guys deserve alot of respect for helping all these people and not making fun of all of them just me :laugh:
-
im from missouri
-
I just love Witty banter.
-
im from missouri
Should have known.LOL
Ks_frm_boy
-
whats thats supposed to mean
-
I am suprised. Then again, if the foal language was to appear, his/her ticket would most likely get punched.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
"I am surprised. Then again, if the foul language was to appear, his/her ticket would most likely get punched"
Like that?
Okay, can't resist, I belief it should be,
"I am surprised. Then again, if the foul language were to appear, his/her ticket would in all likelyhood get punched."
-
Hey, Woodenegg
Okay, can't resist! I belief (believe) it should be,
This is almost comical! Can we get back to the birds? They are more interesting!
-
Thank you!!!! It's a good thing none of us are foulable or is it fowlable or foalable? Oh well! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think we have lost this thread.
14Yoquailfarmer, how about a repost of the question. If you would like help writing it, you can PM and we'll work through it.
-
what can i use for grower and breeder feed
-
I guess the Karma Fairy will hit me hard for this!! I was a 9 went to an 8, and only Karma knows now for sure......
Thanks!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
LOL! Join the club!! LOL!..............Dude!
Steve tears me up!
-
ok enough can we answer the question but im happy your not correcting me thanks.i know i will be corected on some thing
-
I rest my case . Karma who cares? Still don't like my tax dollars going down the toilet !! too many Thumpers around today
-
Too many Thumpers around today
Exactly!
But, I must say that this Karma thing really means alot to me, it's as if my life depends on it.
:laugh:
-
Too many Thumpers around today
Exactly!
But, I must say that this Karma thing really means alot to me, it's as if my life depends on it.
:laugh:
Me to I can't sleep at night
-
Too many Thumpers around today
Exactly!
But, I must say that this Karma thing really means alot to me, it's as if my life depends on it.
:laugh:
Me to I can't sleep at night
trailbossusa, jchiar, don't you worry about it, Boy George of the Culture Club, has stated that you both should receive a one point increase in your Karma :laugh: :laugh:
Now on a side note:ok enough can we answer the question but im happy your not correcting me thanks.i know i will be corected on some thing
How can this nimrod, actually say he/she will use Microsoft Word and miss spell the base word: correct
I think that there should be some age requirement to apply as a member. Then again, at least we have some one to goof on!!!
I wonder if he has heard the saying: I have never had so much fun since my kid brother fell out of the hearse, and the hogs ate him.
I rest my case . Karma who cares? Still don't like my tax dollars going down the toilet !! too many Thumpers around today
You should be happy that it isn't your NY tax $$$ paying for his education in
Missouri. At least he spelled his state name correct!!!!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
-
that's true
-
John,
Must be cabin fever. We have had nothing but rain here for the last week. My pens are saturated, and I was rebanding all birds with the alum # bands with my farm name.
I guess it is just the right time to vent on these nimrods.
Talk to ya later.
Steve
-
what can i use for grower and breeder feed
Not really sure why these goofballs feel they need to pick on a kid looking for answers, I guess you have to wonder about where they are from?
It's been posted before, but you should lower protein after the first 3 or 4 weeks for coturnix to 20-22% to put the weight on. You should also restrict the light available to 10 hrs or so. Lets them grow instead of getting ready to reproduce.
For my breeders, I keep the protein at 24-25% with at least 4% calcium for egg production. I use a 20% chicken layer crumble with 1/3 Gamebird starter at 28% mixed in and a little soybean meal to getting the protein up.
You should read Pheasant Hollow Farm's post on knowing the laws of your state to keep yourself out of trouble. I would suspect Missouri has laws in this regard.
Good luck.
-
Not really sure why these goofballs feel they need to pick on a kid looking for answers, I guess you have to wonder about where they are from?
I posted a statement after reading a post that made no sense whatsoever and was so full of mistakes that I was shocked reading it !!! I will make the statement again I am tired of seeing my tax dollars go down the toilet if by the age of 14 you cannot put a simple sentence together ,than what are we teaching kids today ???
Just for general information I split my time between NJ ( where I run a very profitable demolition co and a construction co that I started 35 years ago by myself) and NY (where I own a 600 acre farm and raise gamebirds
DONITA CO
BOX 446
WESTPORT NY 12993
-
Good for you, you should be commended for you accomplishments. We need to be careful in judgements since we rarely know all the reasons why, especially when it comes to a forum like this. I had already pegged you as successful.
-
Though I am quite sure my two cents worth isn't worth two cents here yet, I'm with Woodenegg! Taking a shot is one thing, but keeping it going for a week is yet another. I would almost expect that from a 13 or 14 yr old, but not from business owners as some of you apparently are. Woodenegg, thanks for the rare (at least lately) display of maturity, your posts and input are what will keep forums like these popular. The ones that contain nothing but sarcasm will be visited once and be forgotten.
14Yoquailfarmer...stick with it. While I may be new to this board, I am not new to raising birds. Feel free to PM me with any questions. If they are on a topic I can help you with, I will certainly do so. Do not be discouraged by folks who never seem to have anything positive to say, the world is full of them.
-
Yes somewhere along the line we have lost the cohesiveness that we once had. The "Love."
To stay on topic, I just feed Starter feed high in protein idefinitely. Then when they mature, I would just add high in carb. cracked corn, milo, wheat. For breeders, just add calcium supliment like oyster shell grit.
-
Thanks to both of you. I am on the road this week covering a lot of the State, but I will check in the internet access allows.
-
thanks every one that help
-
what can i use for grower and breeder feed
Not really sure why these goofballs feel they need to pick on a kid looking for answers, I guess you have to wonder about where they are from?
Though I am quite sure my two cents worth isn't worth two cents here yet, I'm with Woodenegg! Taking a shot is one thing, but keeping it going for a week is yet another. I would almost expect that from a 13 or 14 yr old, but not from business owners as some of you apparently are. Woodenegg, thanks for the rare (at least lately) display of maturity, your posts and input are what will keep forums like these popular. The ones that contain nothing but sarcasm will be visited once and be forgotten.
14Yoquailfarmer...stick with it. While I may be new to this board, I am not new to raising birds. Feel free to PM me with any questions. If they are on a topic I can help you with, I will certainly do so. Do not be discouraged by folks who never seem to have anything positive to say, the world is full of them.
Just so you'll know/maybe understand why these people are not pleased with this person and don't have much tolerance for them. Here is about the 14 year olds 10th post on this forum:
Quote from: 14Yoquailfarmer on May 25, 2006, 01:29:02 AM
i agree more than any of you know me my self will be a licenced falconry soon and if you think that a 22 or a 17 cal is what you need to fix a hawk you a retard and maybe need to shove those up your A$$ to get the picture here and that swgt you have you shouldn't because those are only to be use in the sport of falconry not for some hick farmer to use to catch and kill valuable birds of prey and i hope you lose business for saying some thing stupid like that all you inbreed bastard that use leg hold traps on post sit on them cause your worth less and i hope some one nock some sense into you and learn you fact before you open your hick mouth (end quote).
There is a thing called respect. You got to give it to recieve it. This person blew themselves out of the water from the word "go"! I never spoke to anyone in this manner at 14 years old or any other time for that matter, and then turn right around and ask for their advice. They should have been thrown off of this forum immediately in my opinion.
Thanks
-
Thanks for your input. I think we are all in agreement that the outburst you have noted was wrong and he was brought up short for it. I am also certain he understands that it was wrong and has made efforts to not go there again. That said, we all need to get past it. I think we all can be bigger than that and get back to the business at hand which is sharing knowledge/mistakes/successes and even differing opinions about gamebirds.
-
You hang in there 14Yoquailfarmer. Ill help you out (Which this forum is suppose to be about) . I didnt realize that this forum was for perfect people only. If you cant say anything to help someone out its better not to say anything at all.
-
Amen brother!
-
You hang in there 14Yoquailfarmer. Ill help you out (Which this forum is suppose to be about) . I didnt realize that this forum was for perfect people only. If you cant say anything to help someone out its better not to say anything at all.
YEAH LETS CODDLE EVERYBODY ,NO SENSE TELLING THE WAY IT IS YOU MAY HURT SOMEBODYS FEELINGS, OH SORRY IF I AM NOT POLITICLY CORRECT BUT I BELIEVE IN TELLING PEOPLE THE WAY IT IS. DONT LIKE IT T.....S...
-
I think this thread has outlived its usefulness.
Larry, please lock this one. It's not very positive.
-
I'm not an expert, but I just use Purina Game Bird Chow, Startena with 30% protein. The bob whites seem to do OK with growing and breeding, with more eggs than I have space for. They also like lettuce. Goood luk 2 u
-
I think this thread has outlived its usefulness.
Larry, please lock this one. It's not very positive.
Sorry to disagree, but I do believe that this post has or should i say...."should" have been a very positive learning experience for one person in particular if nothing else. That alone would make it all very useful in all aspects of life.
I do believe they have been forgiven.
Funny how strangers will jump to excuse and defend those whom intentionally/purposely offend others. No wonder this country is the way it is......no one is accountable for their actions.
JMO......Thanks
-
I was just poking around, but I felt compelled to add my two cents to this, wanted or not.
I started raising quail when I was 14 years old as well. I had no idea what I was getting into and I had a lot of really stupid questions that most of us experienced game bird raisers take for granted. I found all the information I needed from the people on this forum. They were all very patient with me and answered my questions without any quams.
That was 6 years ago. I am now 20 years old and have successfully bred and raised 5 different species of quail, plus chickens. I have reared Turkies to maturity a number of times. Six years ago I was a 14 year old kid, scared to death of all you expert guys, and now I've come leaps and bounds from where I was before. I do not claim to be an expert, but the encouragmeent I recieved from this site and the support of others made game birds a lifelong interest for me.
Now, unlike our new 14 year old kid, I have always excelled in spelling and grammar and I have already started to pursue writing professionally. That doesn't exempt me from making a few mistakes here and there, I'll add. My fingers type faster than my brain knows how to control them. 14 year old here can't write to save his/her life, that's obvious. What's not obvious about me is that I can't add or subtract to save my life. I still count on my fingers. It's just the way I am. I took easy math in school, and because of that, I still managed to get straight As. You can't see my horrible math skills, but if you could, would you make fun of me for it? You might say, "Come on, Jessi, you STINK at math! This is grade 3 stuff!" and we'd both laugh about it. Some people are good at some things and not at others.
But whether he can spell or I can add shouldn't affect just how successful we can be as game bird enthusiasts.
This 14 year old is interested in cultivating game birds AND training raptors. Training raptors is always something I've wanted to do. If this kid is interested in animals and is taking on projects like this on his own instead of vandalizing, stealing, and doing drugs (which he may or may not do, I don't know him, but from my general experience kids who have hobbies are less likely to do this kind of stuff) then I commend him for that. I wouldn't want to be the one to show him that adults will call you on every mistake you make and make things tough on him. I want to be the one to encourage him. It's better than having another dead head lost cause kid on the street with nothing better to do than get drunk or high. He might not be able to spell or write even his own name, but he has ambition. If he didn't have ambition, he wouldn't be here asking you guys for help.
Granted, that post he made was absurd and inappropriate, and hopefully someone explained to him an an adult way that this is not how you deal with differences in opinion. This is a professional forum, and our profession is game birds. Kids have to learn what professionalism is, and there's a few people here that, in my opinion, are not setting a very good example.
There's nothing wrong with saying stuff the way it is. I believe that it's the best way, myself. But "the way it is" for you isn't nessesarily "the way it is" for others. There's nothing wrong with saying what you want, it's a free country. If what you want to say is rude or disrespectful, say it, just remember that people are going to label you. I have the foulest mouth of anyone I know, but you'd never know that by reading a piece of my writing or upon first meeting me. I can be so hick and redneck it isn't funny sometimes, but in public, when surrounded by professionals, I strive to professional.
Please, everyone, give this a thought. It's just my thought, you can take it or leave it. I won't hold it against you if you disagree.
To the kid, and any other kids out there: don't give up on things that you enjoy, things that you're good at, or things that challenge you. Keep trying, and listen carefully to all people. It doesn't mean you have to agree, just listen. You'll never please everyone, but try your best. Don't take it personally if you can't. Sometimes you deserve the flak that's thrown at you, and if you do, swallow your pride and take it, and learn from your mistakes. If you don't deserve it, brush it off. It'll keep comming for as long as you live.
-
I was just poking around, but I felt compelled to add my two cents to this, wanted or not.
I started raising quail when I was 14 years old as well. I had no idea what I was getting into and I had a lot of really stupid questions that most of us experienced game bird raisers take for granted. I found all the information I needed from the people on this forum. They were all very patient with me and answered my questions without any quams.
That was 6 years ago. I am now 20 years old and have successfully bred and raised 5 different species of quail, plus chickens. I have reared Turkies to maturity a number of times. Six years ago I was a 14 year old kid, scared to death of all you expert guys, and now I've come leaps and bounds from where I was before. I do not claim to be an expert, but the encouragmeent I recieved from this site and the support of others made game birds a lifelong interest for me.
Now, unlike our new 14 year old kid, I have always excelled in spelling and grammar and I have already started to pursue writing professionally. That doesn't exempt me from making a few mistakes here and there, I'll add. My fingers type faster than my brain knows how to control them. 14 year old here can't write to save his/her life, that's obvious. What's not obvious about me is that I can't add or subtract to save my life. I still count on my fingers. It's just the way I am. I took easy math in school, and because of that, I still managed to get straight As. You can't see my horrible math skills, but if you could, would you make fun of me for it? You might say, "Come on, Jessi, you STINK at math! This is grade 3 stuff!" and we'd both laugh about it. Some people are good at some things and not at others.
But whether he can spell or I can add shouldn't affect just how successful we can be as game bird enthusiasts.
This 14 year old is interested in cultivating game birds AND training raptors. Training raptors is always something I've wanted to do. If this kid is interested in animals and is taking on projects like this on his own instead of vandalizing, stealing, and doing drugs (which he may or may not do, I don't know him, but from my general experience kids who have hobbies are less likely to do this kind of stuff) then I commend him for that. I wouldn't want to be the one to show him that adults will call you on every mistake you make and make things tough on him. I want to be the one to encourage him. It's better than having another dead head lost cause kid on the street with nothing better to do than get drunk or high. He might not be able to spell or write even his own name, but he has ambition. If he didn't have ambition, he wouldn't be here asking you guys for help.
Granted, that post he made was absurd and inappropriate, and hopefully someone explained to him an an adult way that this is not how you deal with differences in opinion. This is a professional forum, and our profession is game birds. Kids have to learn what professionalism is, and there's a few people here that, in my opinion, are not setting a very good example.
There's nothing wrong with saying stuff the way it is. I believe that it's the best way, myself. But "the way it is" for you isn't nessesarily "the way it is" for others. There's nothing wrong with saying what you want, it's a free country. If what you want to say is rude or disrespectful, say it, just remember that people are going to label you. I have the foulest mouth of anyone I know, but you'd never know that by reading a piece of my writing or upon first meeting me. I can be so hick and redneck it isn't funny sometimes, but in public, when surrounded by professionals, I strive to professional.
Please, everyone, give this a thought. It's just my thought, you can take it or leave it. I won't hold it against you if you disagree.
To the kid, and any other kids out there: don't give up on things that you enjoy, things that you're good at, or things that challenge you. Keep trying, and listen carefully to all people. It doesn't mean you have to agree, just listen. You'll never please everyone, but try your best. Don't take it personally if you can't. Sometimes you deserve the flak that's thrown at you, and if you do, swallow your pride and take it, and learn from your mistakes. If you don't deserve it, brush it off. It'll keep comming for as long as you live.
I'm somewhat guilty of it myself, but I think everyone had given it a rest until you put it at the top of the page with your first post, how about we give it a rest? I was hoping to see this baby run off the bottom of the main page. Every respectful person is welcome here I believe. Nice first post by the way.........welcome.