That Quail Place Forum
Raising Gamebirds => Individual State/Country Discussion => Nebraska => Topic started by: Pheasant Hollow Farm on November 21, 2008, 07:10:18 AM
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.........have you settled in yet, if not, how's the transition going?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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haven't tried cort's for training but when we were in Kansas we just clipped their primary feathers even with the secondaries and re netted them after training for the day. But your dog does need to find them to do this.
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Haven't settled in much. We've been busy running back and forth. Today. had to go back for dr. appointment. The trips always take the whole day so not much time to get anything else done.
Have to hurry though, got family coming on sunday nov.30 for late thanksgiving. Maybe I should put them all to work helping with the settleing.
I was really suprised as to how many of the quail and the rabbits made the trip without ill effects. They had to set on the road for a two hour delay when we had the flat tires. And that was late at night. Didn't seem to bother them much. j1
I am getting things set-up in the barn the way I want them though. Would you beleive, those little suckers are still laying eggs? (The quail, not the rabbits) j1
I do have a question though. I read somewhere else, that cort. quail don't do well for dog training because they won't come to call cages and the migrate, so if you turn them loose, they will leave. I figured you guys would know best about this. True or not? I hven't had enough experience to know for sure what to beleive and what is just one peron's opinion.
tweezy,
What are you running back and forth for? As far as the DR., find yourself someone local...
How many birds and rabbits didn't make the trip?
As far as using those birds for dog training, I wouldn't know, but if you do clip the wings and can't retrieve them, you have just rang the dinner bell for the predators. So if you do allow dog training on your property, charge extra for the birds to compensate for the loss.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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j44 As far as the running back and forth..............it's mainly to finish up the odds and ends of moving stuff. My kids told me I need mental help for being such a pack rat! j1
All but 4 of the birds made it. 4 of the little guys in my brooders bit the dust. All of the rabbits made it ok. One has developed the sniffles, but I think she would have anyway with this weather.
Can't find another doctor closer. It's 60 miles one way and 65 miles the other. lDecided to stick with the ones I have 'cause they know my history. (Major life threatening heart attack in Feb 2007. Mostly fully recovered now, thank God and some pretty awesome docs.
Love the house and location closer to the kids. they come out quite often now, instead of once every 6 months.
We rent the house, so won't be any hunting on this property. Just wanted to know about the bird thing, so if anybody asked, I could give them a hal-way intelligent answer. ( and you guys seem half-wayl intelligent) JUST JOKING! j41
So the house you moved from is still empty then.
Can't find another doctor closer. It's 60 miles one way and 65 miles the other. lDecided to stick with the ones I have 'cause they know my history. (Major life threatening heart attack in Feb 2007. Mostly fully recovered now, thank God and some pretty awesome docs.
What are you going to do if you have to go to a hospital?
Love the house and location closer to the kids. they come out quite often now, instead of once every 6 months.
We rent the house, so won't be any hunting on this property. Just wanted to know about the bird thing, so if anybody asked, I could give them a hal-way intelligent answer. ( and you guys seem half-wayl intelligent) JUST JOKING! j41
I hope you have a nice lease agreement....
j47 you're lucky tweezy that I respect my elders....
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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He might like that........ s020
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FINALLY!!!!!!!! A woman that understands me!!!!! s020
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sorry to hear about the foreclosure tweezy ...my sympathy is with you s20 ..there are atleast 2 per block over here ..not that that makes you feel any better...good luck on the new home...oh and good luck keepin these boys in line i hope theres some good cherry trees in your area lol .. you might wanna build a bigger wood shed too..just call if you need help j41
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you go girl chin up ..families are what we live for ...they are priceless j45
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s47 yeah im startin to get a little empty nest syndrome ..my youngest daughter got married so they went to his familys house ,my 21 yr old son is up north ,still got a house full of grandkids though ..my oldest is of partying with her freinds ,got in an aurgument with me so she wouldnt have to feel guilty ..brat s176, and grammy went into the hospital on wed so mom and gramps were to tired had to take them a plate j1..crazy day but still a good one ...just crazy not the usuall j47 how was your thanksgiving did all go smoothly and as planned?
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j41 lol bird brained that sounds like my group when it comes to the older kids they know how to sell puppys but when it comes to care they get oldshimers lol...yet the five yr old he wants to help with every thing ...he caught a button quail and put it in an empty cage and tried to take it to his rm ....said he wanted his own bird i9 i wonder if hell take after me
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My six year old has started a "collection". She wants me to save all the quail eggs for her when they hatch out! I have been doing that. Put them in a zip lock bag and spray them with good smelling disinfectant. And zip it closed tight. She started saving them earlier in the year, 'cept her dog got the fiest batch. Asked me to save more for her. When her mama asked her why she was saving the empty quail eggs, she said it was just something between her and grandma. s020 Go figure 6 year olds! She really does have quite a "collection" now! Only ones she doesn't get are the ones I use for pickling.
j45 i guess your okay as long as she dont slip some live ones in there...lol
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Never thought about that s20 It would be just like her to try! Luckily, she's not around when I put them in the bag.
Atleast now I know present Christmas shopping for her will be easy. Gather the shells, pop them in a bag, spray 'em. Zip it shut, wrap it. poof, one present down, 48576 to go! (I need more birds!!) j1 Just kidding!! c181
lol i lost count dollar tree here i come c181 p33
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It could not go out in July because you would not be using it.......
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why couldn't this happen in July?
That's probably when the problem started and just now showed its face. :wink:
Soot? What kind of furnace is it? Fuel oil, natural or LP gas? If there is soot, it has more problems than just a switch. I definitely wouldn't sleep in that house without a CO detector, regardless of the age or condition of the furnace. My family and I were very close to being overcome and killed with CO when I was a kid in an old drafty house (drafty house more than likely what saved us). A modern house will kill a person real fast with CO. Of course there was no such thing as smoke or CO detectors then. I have personally had smoke detectors save my 3 year old daughters life and possibly my x-wifes and mine. Since, I have eye witnessed people who became corpses because of the batteries being taken out of both of the devices.
Get yourself a CO detector before you sleep again! I'd have a LP detector too, if I had LP, that stuff will blow you to smithereans........had that happen to me too. :-o ......just blasted in the chest with an exploding furnace, thought someone shot me with a shotgun! :-[
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Wow, that really sucks tweezy. To bad you didn't have a wood stove or fireplace as a back up.
As far as the soot goes, it would have to be and oil fired burner (fuel oil #2 I believe) to cause that much soot. The gun(burner head) more then likely wasn't working properly and when the unit calls for heat, the pump spays the oil and the gun is suppose to ignite it.
If there is a delay in this process, the fuel oil builds up on the brick lining of the burner. Over time with this build up, it will continue to burn after the unit gun head has shut down suppling the needed heat. The slow burning fuel oil that is burning of the brick lining in the unit is what is causing the soot. There could also be in-proper dampener setting as well.
Fuel oil heating systems, along with wood or coal heating systems are suppose to have a clay lining inside the brick or block chimney.
Natural gas, or LPG does not cause soot, nor do they require a clay lining. All Natural gas or LPG heating units just use double wall pipe either galvanize or stainless steel and are usually cool to the touch by the time they are vented out of the roof or the side of the house.
As far as CO detector, for it to be effective, it should be placed where the heating unit is located. Then if you want, place a second one outside the sleeping quarters.
Be careful with the extra electric space heater as well. To many on an under rated circuit 15amps/14g wire VS 20amp/12ga wire and you start to pop the breakers. If it is an old house without circuit breaker, and the screw in glass fuses, make sure you replace them with the correct amp fuse. And what ever you do, don't put a penny behind it if it keeps blowing. i9
If you are ever forced to use kerosene heaters, make sure you have some form of ventilation. I don't care what they say, kero even K-1 still has an odor and you will get a headache. Just make sure you have the co detectors in place for those as well.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Mine too tweezy !!!!!
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Trying to look on the bright side. Atleast it happened now and not in a few weeks when we are planning on having a house-full of company for Christmas! c181
That's a ++++ in its self. Look at all the heat that will be generated with a house full of company j41
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Steve you got an angle for everything s020 . Man one year I used a kero seen heater all winter and I kept a headack all the time. Never again...maybe that is what is wrong with me... t14 c29 0009 j1
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I used a kero seen heater all winter and I kept a headack all the time
s20
That's called CO poisoning.
Read this and you'll know that's what you had, I've highlighted your symptoms:
What are the symptoms CO poisoning?
The health effects of breathing in CO depend on the concentration of CO in the air, the duration of exposure, and the health status of the exposed person. For most people, the first signs of exposure to low concentrations of CO include mild headache and breathlessness with moderate exercise. People with heart disease are more likely to be affected by CO, even at low concentrations. Continued exposure can lead to flu-like symptoms including more severe headaches, dizziness, tiredness, and nausea that may progress to confusion, irritability, and impaired judgment, memory and coordination. CO is called the “silent killer” because if the early signs are ignored, a person may lose consciousness and be unable to escape the danger. Under certain conditions, lethal concentrations of CO have occurred within 10 minutes in the confines of a closed garage with a car engine running inside.
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Its also called stupid.................
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yeah alot of people have house fires here in florida in winter due to ..space heaters heat isnt a priority here as much so alot of homes dont have it...be careful tweezy... s20
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Its also called stupid.................
LOL! Yeah, but we, like many others, used to not think anything of it when I, and probably you, was growing up and for most of our adult lives.
Ever get a headache or know someone who does get a headache on Thankgiving when cooking with gas? That's alot of CO that stove puts out into the house from all those burners.
Ever notice water (fog/condensation/sweat) on the inside of windows? This usually happens on Thanksgiving day too (although it can just be high humidity from cooking too). It's an indicator of possible elevated CO levels, especially if you are not cooking, and they normally do not sweat.
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Chow X Boxer, boy I would like to see a pic of that...
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Steve you got an angle for everything s020 . Man one year I used a kero seen heater all winter and I kept a headack all the time. Never again...maybe that is what is wrong with me... t14 c29 0009 j1
Been there and done that as well. As far as the angle goes, of course. s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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tweezy,
Thanks for the kind words for my dog. I just hope she improves.. time will tell.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Well....been 3 days now and STILL waiting for a furnace part. s80 thought it was coming by UPS. Must be coming by pony express!
Any body got a big brooder I can live in for a while?? s53
tweezy,
I would start to think about holding out on this months rent payment.
Keep warm!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Well....been 3 days now and STILL waiting for a furnace part.
:-o You better hope that's it's the problem. :-|
I've probably got the part in my garage that you need. I was a HVAC contractor for about 20 years with my father in the family business. Since he passed away a couple years ago, I inherited a bunch of furnace parts along with the pile that I had already accumulated. We had more parts on our service truck than the local suppliers had, they'd get parts out of our truck for other customers upon occasion.
Good Luck!
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Maybe we'll get a new furnace out of the deal. Atleast I know the eletric heaters can take care of the main floor and the basement so we're not turning blue yet. s2
Blue IS my favorite color, but not for skin!!! s20
think positive thoughts, think positive thoughts c29 c29 c29
tweezy,
Glad to hear that you are coping with the situation.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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j45 good luck tweezy on the furnace our low today was 73 here in florida shame you couldnt come down here til its fixed c53
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Oh sure Ode, rub it in. Thanks for the good luck wish.......Must have worked. We got home from the dr. today and there was heat. The repair man was here while we were gone.
I'm not a smurf anymore. Back to being an i3 Well maybe not. Just Warm!
Congrats on the heat tweezy!! Now you can do what ode does....
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Oh sure Ode, rub it in. Thanks for the good luck wish.......Must have worked. We got home from the dr. today and there was heat. The repair man was here while we were gone.
I'm not a smurf anymore. Back to being an i3 Well maybe not. Just Warm!
:grin: im very happy for you tweezy ...it was more of an invitation ...if you ever get the urge lol...i miss snow some times but i dont know how you guys handle that cold one two days tops id be on a flight home...
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yeah down here our dogs are bigger than the deer j45 wild boar are big game here ..and the dogs they use to hunt them are ridgebacks ...they are used to hunt lion in africa.. i dont hunt ..cant ...but i have alot of family that do...i love to fish though c53 and floridas perfect for that ...if you guys ever do come to florida gator and boar are the big target here s020
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yeah down here our dogs are bigger than the deer j45 wild boar are big game here ..and the dogs they use to hunt them are ridgebacks ...they are used to hunt lion in africa.. i dont hunt ..cant ...but i have alot of family that do...i love to fish though c53 and floridas perfect for that ...if you guys ever do come to florida gator and boar are the big target here s020
Thanks for the invite ode, but you have to many aliens down there. I would rather go over to tweezy's house and chill out for a while. s020
I know, cheap pun.. j1
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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s020 Any time Steve, any time. We have plenty of bedrooms in the farmhouse, now. And they're warm now, too!!!
Sure would like to see some pictures of what ya got out there. Glad to here all is well and some what back to normal. Did you find out what the actual problem was with the furnace?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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:grin: oh its gonna git down to 63 tweezy im pullin out the blankets lol c53
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ooops did i meantion thats gonna be the low ...sorry tweeezy ..id send you a pelican to fetch you here but hed freeze before he got to you lol i9
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Well, Steve,
Won't be any pics soon, as I haven't gotten the right camera yet. However, just imagine a plank piece of typing paper and you have it. Everything covered in the cold damp white stuff.
I got up at 6 this morning and the temp was -11 !!
It's official, I'm callin' my feed man today and switchin from chicken crumbles and alfalfa pellets for the rabbits and quail and going to salmon and tuna for polar bears and penguins!!!! s2
Don't know what the market for penguin is around here, but I think I'll find out!!
Stay warm everybody, and Ode..............shut up! Only kidding, girl j1 j1
tweezy,
-11* you have got to be kidding. If it was -11* here, I wouldn't venture out even to pick up the frozen dead pheasants. Actually, you can even make book(placing a bet) that I wouldn't even open the door of the house until it was +10*
So, you are you saying that where you are located at, there are no trees, mountains, hills, valleys, hollows(hollers)? Just plain flat open prairie? How dull s47
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Let me put it this way, Steve, When I look out my front window, after the corn has been combined......I can see the neighbor's silos......2 and a half miles away! It's kinda nice to see any bad weather comin' miles away. It's kinda nice to to see ANYTHING comin! s020 After working retail for so many years, I love the peace and quiet. j1
Told you there ain't much out here!
tweezy,
I guess I will have to take a virtual tour with google earth of Nebraska. Can you give me a close town in the country?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Yup,
Dodge or Fremont or Scribner or West Point. c49
Thanks tweezy your an i3
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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id send down some warmth if i could honest how bout a hug thats the only warmth i can send... i5...the spring will come soon though right atleast in about what 5 months ...
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ill try not to rub in the warm weather here i remember the cold but i cant handle it no more i3 keep warm hot tea and lots of blankys!
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I guess you are to old to have kids......so what is the problem??????
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That went right over your head..... s020
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yall be nice to tweezy ...or you just might get jinxed and lose your heat lol a29 its okay tweezy the good thing bout bein short is you dont have to duck when the crap hits the fan lol...by the way i like cocoa too have you tried the fancy kinds or are you a hersheys w marshmallows kinda gal? ive been wantin the kind my mom used to make from scratch on top of the stove c181
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Steve, Slider, and Ode, and Suz, c181 c181 c181 c181
Same to you my dear tweezy, I hope you had an excellent Christmas morning.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Thank You and the same to you.....
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Before I get jumped upon ..... I realise that the winter conditions aren't comparable (Nebraska/Scotland) but our birds still react similarly in winter.
For winter laying in Coturnix I've personally found that you get better laying from birds under 10 mths of age given 16 hours of light in a heated shed, my tube heater thermostats are only set at 10oC but its enough to keep the chill off and keep the birds active enough to generate their own heat.
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c181 "Stove top kind" Only way to go. Mom used to make that every morning before we went to school.
About bein' short........you also know exactly where the crap is coming from!! i9 s020
j45 lol aint that the truthSteve, Slider, and Ode, and Suz, c181 c181 c181 c181
i second that to all hope yers was merry
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yer welcome sweetheart j41