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Raising Gamebirds => General Discussion => Topic started by: myriadin on June 26, 2007, 10:23:47 PM

Title: Raising phoenix
Post by: myriadin on June 26, 2007, 10:23:47 PM
Through a New-Age classified section, I have contacted a breeder selling phoenix eggs. I've purchased a half-dozen, which should arrive within 3-6 days.

I have some questions regarding the incubation/brooding/keeping of these birds.

1. I have purchased some kevlar-weave gloves for handling the eggs. Will these be adequate to protect me from the heat, or should I use steel tongs to turn them?

2. I am told an incubation temperature of 1,230F degrees is appropriate. I have built an incubator which varies between 1,190F and 1255F, based on half-hourly pyrometer readings. Will this range produce good results?

3. My brooder and adult cages are constructed of commercial cinder block. Do these have a high anough fire-resistance rating, or do I need an additional fire-retardant layer? Possibly refractory cement?

4. How much distance in the cage do I need between the nests and the birds' water and food to avoid evaporation and copmbustion of the feed? (I am told the flame temperature when the birds ignite can exceed 2,000F degrees.)

5. I understand that the propogation of phoenix  (as a mythical animal) is not addressed in specific by local laws. Am I liable by any general laws for the possible destruction of local wildlife by my phoenix if I release them? Could a local court "prove" that the release of such animals had destroyed local wildlife (or farm animals) even though the scientific community doesn't even acknowledge their existence?

Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

(Edited to correct some really awkward sentences.)
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: Reeves on June 26, 2007, 10:29:12 PM
I would have to say that you do not have to worry about anything you posted.

After all, it's just a chicken. (Really !)
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: Vrex on June 27, 2007, 05:14:58 PM
They sound like our typical set-ups here in Phoenix, arizona.  We are cooling down this week temp is only 111 degrees today.
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: gsc on June 27, 2007, 06:00:58 PM
I got to say, I like this one!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: jk on June 27, 2007, 09:11:29 PM
Good one...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: myriadin on June 27, 2007, 10:08:37 PM
After all, it's just a chicken. (Really !)

The taxonomy of the phoenix has actually been under dispute through the years. The Egyptians originally considered it similar to the stork or heron, while the Greeks and Romans likened it alternately to the peacock or to the eagle. One researcher noted similarities to the East African flamingo. I guess I'll have to just wait and see when they hatch. (My egg supplier, from Heliotropolis, was unable to provide pictures of hatched phoenix. It seems they're camera-shy.)

Meanwhile, where am I gonna find cinnamon twig ash for their hatching-beds? ???
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: gsc on June 27, 2007, 11:53:14 PM
Have you tried the gamekeeper at Hogwarts?  I understand he knows about most of this stuff.
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: CharlieHorse on June 28, 2007, 12:07:19 AM
I thought the "Universe of Superheroes" comic book store burned up last sunday? I'm sure it did, I was there!

I bet the next question will be along the lines of, "do feed stores have feed"? Let's hope not.

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Raising phoenix
Post by: myriadin on June 28, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
Have you tried the gamekeeper at Hogwarts?  I understand he knows about most of this stuff.

Unfortunately, I'm told that the Hogwarts gamekeeper has been called away suddenly to deal with an outbreak of salamanders (the fiery kind) in Oregon, USA. They seem to be attracted to the underground fungus Armillaria ostoyae. Perhaps there is some nutritional factor at work here.

My egg supplier seems to be unable to advise me in regard to raising the chicks...perhaps due to their inability to contain the chicks themselves. Hmph.