Gas prices

[jaime7997]

Gas prices still hovering at $4.09.9 in the 10-mile radius here.

Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm

Have any of you heard about the supposed fuel they are working on making from bug poo? Heard a little thing on the radio about it the other day... Don't know any details, but man, there would have to be a giant bug farm somewhere!!!

Your kidding right

I swear I heard it on the radio one morning. I don't know how true it is or if it's just some freak somewhere with a hair brained idea. Need to google... Makes me wonder...

[jaime7997]

It's true... Check this out... It's really from a bacteria ("bug") that breaks down organic stuff and produces crude oil as an excrement!!! Interesting....
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/bug-fuel/
And here's an article in case you can't see the video for some reason...I know some folks out there still have dial-up... I'm sorry.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4133668.ece

[Pheasant Hollow Farm]

It seems that OPEC is the one that loves to cause the speculation in the oil markets.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil reached $140 a barrel for the first time ever Thursday following reports that Libya may cut production and an OPEC official said crude could hit $170 a barrel this summer.

According to a report by the Bloomberg news service, Shokri Ghanem, chairman of Libya's National Oil Corporation, said reductions may be made because the market is oversupplied.

Other reasons given by Ghanem: A response to sanctions against Iran, also a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, and a bill being discussed in Congress that could allow lawsuits against OPEC countries.

Speaking to France 24 television Thursday, OPEC president Chakib Khelil said oil prices could rise to between $150 and $170 a barrel during the summer. He added that he didn't think oil would hit $200 a barrel.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc


And in todays yahoo news

CURB SPECULATION

A 40 percent surge in oil prices this year has prompted U.S. politicians to take steps to try to curb speculation in the oil market, that some blame for pushing up prices.

The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday approved legislation which directs the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), the futures market regulator, to use all its authority including emergency powers to "curb immediately" the role of excessive speculation in energy futures markets.

 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc

Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm

[Pheasant Hollow Farm]

It's true... Check this out... It's really from a bacteria ("bug") that breaks down organic stuff and produces crude oil as an excrement!!! Interesting....
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/bug-fuel/
And here's an article in case you can't see the video for some reason...I know some folks out there still have dial-up... I'm sorry.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4133668.ece

Interesting! Thanks for the links.

Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm

[frank_lap_127]

Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see a great future for this. It would be wonderful if it could be really done with shavings, compost but I think that it will do like ethanol, they will use a plant that produce a lot of sugar (corn) to make more money with less trouble. So the cost of food after this will rise again because all the morons who are rising their prices due to ''gas price'' will have a new argument to make more money, they think we are stupid, it's funny to see that they try to make us think that the only expenditure they have is fuel.

I think that the best thing in a near futur are electric cars. It's possible to get a car quite powerful, nobody really need to have a car than is doing 0-60 in 4-5 seconds, nobody really need to have a car that can reach 100 mph... Few people are building electric car themselves that are quite good, so the rich companies are able to create something better...

Frank

[slider]

I think that you are exactly right Frank....

[NH/Pete]

Why not sugar cane or sugar beets to make alcohol.
Corn for food and alcohol for fuel

[frank_lap_127]

Why not sugar cane or sugar beets to make alcohol.
Corn for food and alcohol for fuel

Why taking food, I think it's more important to feed humans than to feed our gas thanks. Here in Canada, our ''dear'' governement is trying to obligate people to use ethanol/fuel mix. Ethanol, created like it is now, is really not clean for environment because corn is the worst kind of plant you can industrially use, lots of pesticides, lots of fuel burned, use the earth really faster than most other plants. So, to me, ethanol is a big enemy to Earth saving for the moment.

So finally, I prefer to say ''Why not food for human and electricity (or another clean energy) for car''. Because it's wonderful to think that we can create fuel really fast, but we need to save Earth. I know that some people here are quite old (please don't take it bad) and that some won't probably see the real problems that global warming will bring, but remember that there are young people, like myself (and my kids when I'll be older) that will still be alive. The best legacy you can let to your children, grand-children, etc. is a clean environment...

Thanks

Frank

[slider]

Taking that much sugar out of the system would do the same thing that the corn is doing..there is sugar in just about everything..and sugar cane can only be grown in very limited places in this country and corn can be grown just about anywhere..I really believe that it is as they have been saying on TV it is the speculators that are driving everything up so high..

[NH/Pete]

OK no sugar.... but a battery powered truck?
I can see it with a car. Not so sure with a 4x4 in the winter in NH.

[CharlieHorse]

I've been known to run on nothing but alcohol and air a time or two.  Best thing is that the only 2 by-products is methane gas, which can be used as a repellent or maybe run a furnace on it?   And a cure for jelly fish stings.

 

[frank_lap_127]

A battery powered truck is possible, I've saw a video on YouTube of a guy a bit older than me, at the university, who have done this with an old Datson (or something like) and was telling that with his money (don't forget he's at university!) he was able to run a truck and that the electricity bill of his dad was only $18 higher than normal, it's nothing compare to the $80-100/week (even more) for most of the people who have to use a car...

Methane is also really interessant because, when it's burned, it create carbon dioxide wich is 21 time les polluant than methane.

Thanks

Frank

[Pheasant Hollow Farm]

Gas prices still holding around the $3.99 to $4.09 a gallon in the 10 mile radius where I am located.

A couple of stations that have the 10% ethanol are priced $.05 cheaper per gallon.

Has anyone seen any difference beside less MPG when using the gas blended with the 10% ethanol, engine running wise?

Any pros and cons on using this blended gas in mowers and chainsaws?

Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm

[Pheasant Hollow Farm]

Gas prices in a 10-mile radius of Slate,WV are $4.09 - $4.15 gal. as of today 7-16-08

I paid on this past Sunday, $3.99.9

The price should be coming down since the price of crude dropped, What happened? Didn't they  or the updated version idiots 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080716/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices;_ylt=AtbHLDzfW07hygHP.QM3Huqs0NUE

Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm

[CharlieHorse]

What they're not tellin' ya and probably never will, is that they are slowing the consumption down. (Global Warming) (Runnin' out of oil)     People won't do it on their own, so the powers that be are going to do it for us. When everybody is getting 50 mpg, the price will be $10.00 a gallon or more.