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Our Member's Section => Off Topic Discussion and Current Event's => Topic started by: Pheasant Hollow Farm on April 17, 2008, 06:32:39 AM
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s53 Yesterday it was $3.49.9 gal and this morning it went to $3.59.9 and diesel has hit a high of $4.59.9 gal here in my area.
I can see my feed bill going up this month just for the transportation costs alone.
What's the price of gas and diesel in your area?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It's a s53 buisness. But we would really like to pay 3.59 per gallons, here in Quebec it's $4,91 per gallon and the price are still rising up...
It's like a mafia!
At least for the moment I don't have a car but my parents do... I was heading to buy a new one, I'll go with a little one finally...
Frank
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I remember when they use to raise gas prices by a penny at a time. Then they went by the nickle, now they dime ya to death every other day.
The Feds want to increase gas taxes, the States want to increase gas taxes all for the sake of road improvements. Who the s53 is going to be on the roads when ya can afford the gas to drive, let alone get hassled by the county grass cops telling ya that your lawn needs to be cut.
s176 mother s53 c109 i6
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas here in N.E. Louisiana was 3.24 yesterday and I am sure that it will be higher today..do not get me started... s176 s53 c110
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Gas here in N.E. Louisiana was 3.24 yesterday and I am sure that it will be higher today..do not get me started... s176 s53 c110
Slider,
Remember the gas wars? Now we have price fixing. We have all the gas stations here in a 10 mile radius with the gas prices fixed at $3.59.9 gal Usually on Wednesday they all drop the price by $.05 per gallon.
Well yesterday, the price was $3.49.9 and never lowered the price. I told my wife to check when she went to work this morning and give me a call. Sure as c109, they raised it.
When they do lower it by $.05 they will normally raise $.05 above the starting point the following day. This time they just did the dime act.
Steve
Pheasnt Hollow Farm
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Dec. 1966 it was .21 per gal. I drove to California that year and it cost me 48.00. :cry:
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Dec. 1966 it was .21 per gal. I drove to California that year and it cost me 48.00. :cry:
Now it costs that much to fill up a small car s176
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My buddy just bought a CNG (natural gas) powered car - a Ford . Out here in Utah CNG is regulated and costs only .73 per gallon. Seems to be an even better idea than buying a hybrid car/suv. I am going to look into this.
Glad I sold my GMC Duramax last Summer. Filling up my Honda Accord is much more easy on the wallet.
In Utah today Unleaded is $3.19 and Diesel is $4.09.
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3.499 here this morning. Killin me s80
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The s53 didn't even wait 24hrs, the price is now in a 10 mile radius $3.65.9
What a joke. I say screw this global warming an the U.N., and screw the refined gas.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It won't end until "Corporate America" has gotten all the money necessary to survive. While we common people suffer under the corporate greed, the CEO's get filthy rich. Who in America deserves the multi million dollar salaries? How much money is enough? Why has Exxon/Mobil had x number of consecutive record sales and record profits? They have got us where they want us.......under their thumbs.
BTW......... gas was 3.49 and diesel was 4.09 in east TN.
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Something is going to have to give. I drive a vw jetta and it STILL is killing me. I am a contract computer nerd, i have to drive for a living. I am going to have to raise my price per hour just to cover the gas. I would hate to think what the truck drivers are going though.
I dont know how much longer i can make it doing what i do. I would make less having a 8-5 job, but would not have to spend as much on gas.
It just really stinks....
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Here's my soultion to the gas prices, forget the s53 damn cars, ride with a horse and wagon.
c109
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For what it's worth, I have been in the gasoline business in Texas and Louisana for over 30 years. I am a fair sized distributor for several major brands and have a chain of convenience stores. Sell about 11 million gallons a month. All this is sort of like admitting I have leprosy these days. Frankly, it is a crappy business. I am in several other businesses (metal recycling, shopping center development) and all are better than the gas business. I haven't built a new store in years and don't plan to build anymore. Just a poor investment return.
Someone on this thread indicated there is price fixing. Over the years I have been to hundreds of oil seminars. Those guys can't agree on what kind of sandwiches to have for lunch much less get together to fix prices. Remember, it would take everybody, if just one does not, he gets all the business. For about 20 years, I pooled about 10 cents a gallon retail. During the year, I may pool 20 cents for a while, then 5 cents for a while but wound up around 10. Last year I actually pooled 15 cents and my net was less because of credit card fees. So far this year, I am around 16.7 cents pool. But if you come in and fill up on your American Express the credit card fee is around 15 cents a gallon. Try operating on that margin! A lot more to it than this, you couldn't explain all there is to raising pheasants in one post. Still, not a great business to be in.
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Steve; Are you telling us that in WV that the county cops etc can tell you when you have to cut your grass. that sounds more like socialism to me.
About the gas problem, I agree with everyone on this site. We the small people are just that. The (corps) could care less as they just want to make more money at are expense and I don't see it slowing down any to soon. JB c109
I remember when they use to raise gas prices by a penny at a time. Then they went by the nickle, now they dime ya to death every other day.
The Feds want to increase gas taxes, the States want to increase gas taxes all for the sake of road improvements. Who the s53 is going to be on the roads when ya can afford the gas to drive, let alone get hassled by the county grass cops telling ya that your lawn needs to be cut.
s176 mother s53 c109 i6
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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For what it's worth, I have been in the gasoline business in Texas and Louisana for over 30 years. I am a fair sized distributor for several major brands and have a chain of convenience stores. Sell about 11 million gallons a month. All this is sort of like admitting I have leprosy these days. Frankly, it is a crappy business. I am in several other businesses (metal recycling, shopping center development) and all are better than the gas business. I haven't built a new store in years and don't plan to build anymore. Just a poor investment return.
Someone on this thread indicated there is price fixing. Over the years I have been to hundreds of oil seminars. Those guys can't agree on what kind of sandwiches to have for lunch much less get together to fix prices. Remember, it would take everybody, if just one does not, he gets all the business. For about 20 years, I pooled about 10 cents a gallon retail. During the year, I may pool 20 cents for a while, then 5 cents for a while but wound up around 10. Last year I actually pooled 15 cents and my net was less because of credit card fees. So far this year, I am around 16.7 cents pool. But if you come in and fill up on your American Express the credit card fee is around 15 cents a gallon. Try operating on that margin! A lot more to it than this, you couldn't explain all there is to raising pheasants in one post. Still, not a great business to be in.
skipper3905,
That would be me. You can't tell me that price fixing doesn't happen. When you have 5 gas stations, BP, Exxon, Chevron, 2 Marathons all have the same price in a 10 mile radius and all 5 lower their price on Wednesday the same amount, only to up the price to the original selling price the following day.
15 miles from me over by my daughter house there is a BP station owned by the same people that is by me. It's the only station on the main drag for 7 miles. Their price is $.05 lower, and they reduce by $.05 on Wednesday as well, and up the price the following day.
I can understand the profit margin, but come on the price increases, 10 to 20 cents within days? if there is a wind storm or if you far^t, they are changing the price at the pumps on fuel that is still in the tanks before there is even a new delivery. As soon as there is talks about an investigation in price fixing or Price Gouging, all of a sudden the price of gas drops, and the investigation issue becomes moot. It is a cat and mouse game.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$3.24 here in NH
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Steve,
You are right, I can't tell you price fixing does not happen. I can tell you I have never seen it happen. As far as how prices react quick, I can tell you how we do it. I own 41 convenience stores. Each store has three key competitors we identify. If any of these key competitors drop the price we match immediately. Going up is slightly different, we wait until two go up then we go up also and give the third one 48 hours, if he does not go up we drop back down to meet his price.
On occasion, there can be a price fight when a new store opens or some other anomily. About a year ago, HEB Grocery and Walmart got in a price fight in Waxahachie, TX and got down to about 25 cents below my cost. I left that one alone. My sales dried up in my store and still have not got it all back. Just could not match the prices. Ours is a volume business, if we do not match prices we lose customers. Customers may like the new place and not come back. Each convenience store is a big investment, I can't let the volume go away and I can't lose money on gas and stay in business. Yes, I make money in the gas business, my stores are paid for and I run a efficient company but if I get to the bottom line with 1.5% of my sales (before federal income tax) I have had a great year. Not much room for mistakes.
Gas usually goes up or down with crude price. Over the last 20 days or so we have gone from $96 to $115 bbl. That translates to about 42 cents a gallon gas increase. Believe it or not, refiner margins are very low right now. That won't last. Oil is a pure supply and demand commodity. Usually as the price goes up, demand will slack and move price down. Problem is, world demand is going up and oil is a world commodity. China is using 50% more oil every year. Supply is restricted, Russia has a couple of big fields not developed and Canadian oil sands coming along but not much on horizon other than those. American has some big undeveloped fields in California, Florida coast, and Alaska but all off limits to drill. Supply is not meeting world demand and we will see $5 gas within a couple of years. Europeans have had $5 gas a long time and their per capita oil usage is about half of ours. They drive smaller cars, live closer to work, use mass transit and still have a comparable life style. Americans @$$$@ about gas cost but don't do the things that help drive cost down.
There are lots of price sensitive retail prices that react quickly. For example, if American Airlines drops or increases it's fare $20 from DFW to Washington Dullus, United will usually meet that price within the hour.
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Around here the "franchise" sets the price, not the station/store owner/operator, in which make hardly nothing from the fuel sales. As skipper said, credit card fees alone get more of the profits than any store owner. Everyone should be using cash instead of giving these credit card corporations all the $$$.
It isn't the first time it's happened...........remember the 70's?
Oil companies=Government...........one of the same.
Corporations=Government.........one of the same. Who owns who? :-|
Can't tell the difference...........because there is no difference.
Everybody blames everything on the President, when it's Congress who is calling all the shots. It's set up that way to divert attention elswhere. ^-^
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It went up .20 in 2 days..It is a rip off and no one can tell me any different..When the oil companies went from 16% profit to 200% in one year Hell no body is that dumb..And they say they need that much profit for research that is a bunch of BULL because they know where every drop of oil is in the world right now and have for 50 years..It is NOTHING but a friggin RIPOFF and nothing more nothing...And all the Bast@@ds need to be put in jail...and give nothing but oil to drink. Dont get me started...
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Slider, I don't want to get into defending major oil companies but will point out a few things. Their profits have not increased 200% in one year. ExxonMobil is a pretty good barometer. Their proift was $41 billion in 2007, $39 billion in 06, $36 billion in 05, and $25 billion in 04. Most of the oil companies are publicly traded and audited financials are readily available on the web.
Just keep the conversation on Exxon. They paid $30 billion in Federal income taxes in 2007. 81% of Exxon's business comes from overseas. America is the only nation on the planet that requires domestic corporations to pay income taxes on foreign income. What is the solution? Tell Exxon to move to another country? Any country in the world would love to have them with the thousands of high paying jobs. They wouldn't mind that $30 billion in taxes either. Would not be a big chore for Exxon to move overseas, remember only 19% of their income is American anyway. That does not seem quite viable to me.
Then how do we get oil at a price below the world price? We need about 10 million barrels a day over what we produce ourselves. Well, we could declare war on Canada, Venezuela, and Mexico, defeat them, occupy their countries, seize their oilfields and not pay them squat. That would give us a little over 10 million a day. That would do some damage to our international image, but we sure would be driving cheap.
Maybe just appeal to oil company CEOs to "do the right thing" and cut back on the price of gas. Most oil companies purchase most of their refining stock on the open market so that would not have a big effect but problem is, if I owned stock in any company in any industry and the CEO announced he was not going to make the most money he could for the shareholders I would dump that stock immediately. Every hedge fund, pension fund, and mutual fund would elect a new board at the next annual meeting and that CEO would be history in a twinkling. Exxon is not the United Way, they are there to make the most money they can for their shareholders.
Maybe just pass a law that says gas can't be sold over $1 a gallon. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out you won't be able to buy gas but the price signs sure would look good. I was in Cuba a while back. They have government set prices on all commodities. Prices are cheap but gas stations don't have gas and grocery stores have empty shelves. Maybe a law saying flight ready pheasant can't be sold for more than 50 cents a bird. Hunters would love it but you would not sell them any birds.
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It is a RIPOFF and nothing more..and if you believe that CRAP that they put out then you are in it with them..They do not pay BEANS in income tax. The only thing that they pay is congress. I do not believe that propaganda CRAP that they put out...I was born at night...but not last night.It is a RIPOFF and nothing more..They get them CEO`s up there and ask them a few simple questions just for show and do not even put them under oath. Now what kind of CRAP is that...you just tell me...and like Steve said they all get together on the same day and raise there prices the same amount.. I just can`t believe that they can think that the American people are that stupid to believe that CRAP....
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And you forgot to mention that in 2003 their profit was about 6 billion...Which direction is that line going??????????????????????? But O Yea I forgot, they have to do research...Every time the wind changes direction the prices jump..Pipe line in Alaska has a crack in it...prices jump..Flood in South Texas...prices jump...Hurricane in South Louisiana...prices jump...oops another hurricane in South Louisiana...prices jump...earth quake in California...prices jump...UHHHHH where is this picture going????
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Pay Taxes my A$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Every time the wind changes direction the prices jump..Pipe line in Alaska has a crack in it...prices jump..Flood in South Texas...prices jump...Hurricane in South Louisiana...prices jump...oops another hurricane in South Louisiana...prices jump...earth quake in California...prices jump.
I too wondered why a wreck in the States would make our prices at the pump change....
I think this topic will get many people worked up.
But, "they" do not know where all the oil/gas is. If they did, there would be no more seismic work going on. All seismic companies have been very busy in Alberta. Now that Sask has a new Gov. they are now busy in Sask as well. Saskatchewan has as much, if not more oil and gas as Alberta. Their main problem is, they do not have the infrastructure to move the oil/gas out of Province......yet. Many people up here believe Sask will be the next boom Province. Already land prices have jumped 50% or more.
Last year and likely this year, the oil/gas companies have slowed down. Mainly to get contractors (drilling, construction, pipeline etc etc) to lower prices for the work done. However, you'll not see any relief at the pumps. It will only line their pockets more.
Don't know where things are headed. On TV there was a program about bio fuels. Only thing not covered, was the fact it takes more to make the stuff, than they get out of it ! But it makes them look like "they" are doing something for the global warming folks.
I don't expect to see much change in my life time.....except to pay more for fuels.
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Slider, Exxon net income in 2003 was $21.51 billion, not $6 billion. These things are too easy to check.
Now, if you think the tax amounts Exxon reports are materially misstated, I am going to do you a big favor. Buy a few shares of Exxon stock, get with your personal lawyer, and go to any plaintiff class action firm (the LaRache firm is a very big one). Just tell them you bought your stock in reliance on the public statements and you want a generation fee for a class action suit. This one would be the grandaddy of all class action suits and any law firm would jump on it if there is anything to your idea. I was a CPA in a past life and can tell you this would be increadibly easy to prove or disprove. Exxon can show the canceled checks to the IRS or they can't. That simple!! By the way, you would also sue Exxon's law firm, audit firm, and investment bank. The IRS keeps a few auditors on companies Exxon's size all the time. They would have to be in on this gigantic conspiracy, too. Can get court authority to sue the IRS also.
Over the last few years we are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars in oil company bogus tax reporting that the government could go after. By the way, you would be eligible for a 5% fee from the government on recoveries.
If you are right, you will be a multimillionaire overnight and hero to all the masses. You will be on TV, have books written about you, and make more money than Bill Clinton on speaking tours.
Well, this is a interesting topic but a gamebird forum. I think I will drop out of this discussion here.
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skipper3905,
This has as much to do with the game bird industry as does the feed supply, and the delivery of your product(game bird industry). I am not looking for you to make excuses for the oil and gas industry.
Beside, this is the general forum. It is not specifically meant only for the game bird industry, even though every thing can relate to it one way or the other.
Also, it all boils down to the consumer paying the tax on the fuels not the oil company. The oil company is only and agent for the collection.
If it wasn't for the tax subsidies the oil companies are getting they probably would relocate out of the U.S.
In one of your comments: Steve,
You are right, I can't tell you price fixing does not happen. I can tell you I have never seen it happen. As far as how prices react quick, I can tell you how we do it. I own 41 convenience stores. Each store has three key competitors we identify. If any of these key competitors drop the price we match immediately. Going up is slightly different, we wait until two go up then we go up also and give the third one 48 hours, if he does not go up we drop back down to meet his price.
So then, who is initiating the new price that you all follow? This is still price fixing either way you look at it.
If I say to you, and three other gas stations just off the interstate, lets jack up the price $.02 a cross the board, are you going to do it? I mean what the hell it is only $.02 and it would be considered as a nuance increase. You or I would pay it if we needed the gas. I have no Idea what the price is down the road.
This is price fixing at its best especially if all the gas stations had the same price. There is no longer any loyalty to one gas maker as it once was. It is now, who has the cheaper gas.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Another .10 today...It ant even raining outside...no prediction of any storms or hurricans no pipelines broken anywhere and the stock market was not even open today so oil did not go up o`well raise it anyway what the Hell !!!!! O I forgot, maybe it was because the Pope came to visit the U.S. thats got to be it.....
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Dag Nabbit!!
c49
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Steve, OK, I'll jump back in. Those were good questions in your post and will give it a shot on answers. If you (a competitor) called me and said "Let's go up 2 cents" I would tell you we can talk about the weather or girls or anything else but we are not talking about gas prices. That's that! End of story! I have not and never will talk to a competitor about prices. It is against the law and really just not good business. If you are interested, I can explain the good business part sometime. You will understand.
What pushes up gas prices is the price of oil. Every time you listen to the news and hear oil went up $3 a barrell, you can bet your booties me and every other gas station owner gets a 7.5 cent a gallon increase that day.
What pushes up the price of oil? As long as somebody in the world is willing to pay $115 for a barrell of oil, that's the price! Just exactly like wheat, silver, gold, coal, copper, tin, titanium, zinc, soybeans, porkbellies, orange juice, or any other world commodity. It's that simple!
You mentioned the oil company is only a agent for collection in reference to my mention of taxes paid by Exxon. Exxon is a collection agent for excise taxes. The $30 billion I said Exxon paid in 2007 were income taxes. Big difference! Fed excise taxes are 18 cts gas and 24 cts diesel. That is just a wash, whatever excise tax Exxon collects it has to wire transfer the 24th of each month to the IRS. Trust me, the IRS is waiting on Exxon's wire.
Income Tax subsidies and loopholes are harder to explain. Until 1975 oil companies had the "oil depleciation allowance". That really was a complete and total ripoff to the taxpayer. Started in 1924 and really got jacked up under LBJ. That whole era was replete with corruption and the oil companies were hip deep in it and the main culprits were from right here in Texas. It is still technically on the books but only for very small oil companies and then only when oil is under $20 a barrell. Just not a factor anymore.
There is another loophole called "Enhanced recovery credit". I don't know all the particulars on this but the govt gives some help for stripper wells (under 5 bbl a day). Major oil companies don't mess with these so again only for small operators. Personally, I think it needs to be done away with and probably will be. At todays prices about 80% of all stripper wells are profitable and the rest need to be shut down anyway. There is some provision for help under this tax provision on high sulpher refining. I don't know the dollar amount of this but Valero is the only refiner in America that can refine high sulpher oil and that is only at one refinery. There is just no sense in this Federal Income Tax provision, it needs to go. I just don't think this is a big money item.
"Intangible drilling cost" is called a loophole but is really a timing matter. Oil companies get to deduct 70% of drilling cost the first year and the remainder over five years. Over a five year period the effect on their taxes is zero, just like any 5 year equipment depreciation. I think this needs to be eliminated too. Drilling cost should be depreciated over 7 years just like you do your tractor, your farm truck, or any other capital equipment business item you own. There is no reason for oil companies to get any different depreciation method than anybody else. It does not save them any money over the long haul and just gets bad PR for them. It would be smart for them to lobby to get rid of it.
One last thing. This is a contract matter, not a legal loophole but some might call it a loophole. During the Clinton administration nobody was drilling in some offshore areas. Oil companies needed $50 bbl oil to cost justify. No oil company was willing to take the billion dollar risk in these areas. The govt waived 17% royalties to induce drilling. At the time nobody knew we were going to have $115 oil. The problem is, those companies that took them up on it made a binding contract with the govt to waive royalties on those wells. Just like with us, a contract is your word.
That's it for federal tax loopholes for oil companies. If you can find another one, let me know, we can make a tub of money as consultants.
Hope all this made sense.
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Man you wasting your ink....
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Well tomorrow is Wednesday where all the local stations ban together to either raise or lower or to remain the same..
I will post my finding tomorrow.. Post your findings here also.
Steve
Phesant Hollow Farm
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Well I have to leave in a few minutes to go to Mississippi , so I will know soon enough... c110
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Well I have to leave in a few minutes to go to Mississippi , so I will know soon enough... c110
Safe trip slider!!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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yesterday it was 3.499 in Jay, In pensacola is cheapest i found was 2.399 (at sams club)
Have not got a chance to look today, but i am sure it is up again!! s80
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Yep...up .10 in 3 days 3.45.9 a .5 higher in Mississippi...Going to South Louisiana tomorrow will see how much it is down there...
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Hazardous work place
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=14540
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Interesting comments.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It's a bit of a funny site. More often than not, photos are put down as "photo shoped". Regardless, cool picture !
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As I had stated on Tuesday, Wednesday is usually(you can set your watch by it) the day they lower the gas prices by as much as $.05-.10 per gallon.
Well not even one of the 4 station that I have mentioned earlier dropped the price. What will happen now is they will wait for the corprate phone call and all 4 stations will raise them for tomorrow morning.
Gas still at $3.65.9 at all the 4 stations.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Reeves,
What's the gas prices lately? Are they changing as much as ours in the States?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It appears to me that nobody is getting the underlying big picture here:
"Immigration control"
Make it so expensive in this country to live, that nodody wants to come here anymore. ^-^
Those politicians are some of the smartest people on the earth, no wonder they make so much money. Gives me this warm fuzzy feeling inside knowing that my vote really does count.........or does it? :-|
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What's the gas prices lately?
Actually, I don't even look at the price.
My cousin owns a BP station. I hang out there upon occasion during morning rush hour. People come and go, complaining about the gas price, one remark after another........all the while with a bottle of $1.89 water in their hand, a $1.50 candy bar, a $3 energy drink, and maybe a $3 power shot........and a, "give me 10 numbers on the Mega Millions, 5 of those #7's and 5 of them #14's" (scratch-offs).
Get my point? Priorities are totally screwed up in this country. When I was growing up, a bottle of soda (glass) was a treat about once a month, now it's as if it's a birth right.
Not that I don't feel the pinch, but just how bad is it............really?........yet? ^-^
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Here ya go CharlieHorse s020
If she doesn't have a script, she is lost s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I don't feel the pinch either, I just can't justify cutting the grass at $3.65.9 a gal and not going anywhere.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Yep as I thought...the closer to the Gulf I got the cheaper gas got.... .15 to .20 a gal. cheaper .
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The cheapest here in this area of nor cal for the lowest grade is 3.89, high grade is 4.06 and diesel is 4.39. The other stations around town and those neighboring vary .07 to .10 more.
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Have you noticed that the diesel has basically been stable and that the gas prices are the main issues.
It won't be long and the gas will be outpricing the diesel.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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3.49 here today
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It won't be long and the gas will be outpricing the diesel.
The way it always used to be........considerably higher. Especially for off-road diesel.
......and the way it should be.
"Controlling the Masses"
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Chevron gas station in South Parkersburg,WV was selling there low c109 octane at $3.69.9 and a BP station across the street was $3.59.9
Sam's club was $3.51.9 (M.C. card only) no attendents no cash sales in Vienna, WV.
The average price was $3.55.9
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Sam's club was $3.51.9 (M.C. card only) no attendents no cash sales in Vienna, WV.
Been there.........was scratchin' my head when I pulled in to the place and no one was around. :-|
At first they did away with "Full Service" (I used to be one), then auto repair, then tires and tire repair.............now they don't even have anyone watchin' the place!! :-o
What will they do away with next? .............the gasoline? :-o ^-^
I was told today that they are in a transition to start doing away with auto titles and the like............that it is all going electronic. :x s47
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Sam's club was $3.51.9 (M.C. card only) no attendents no cash sales in Vienna, WV.
Been there.........was scratchin' my head when I pulled in to the place and no one was around. :-|
At first they did away with "Full Service" (I used to be one), then auto repair, then tires and tire repair.............now they don't even have anyone watchin' the place!! :-o
What will they do away with next? .............the gasoline? :-o ^-^
I was told today that they are in a transition to start doing away with auto titles and the like............that it is all going electronic. :x s47
I haven't heard anything about that yet. Who is your source?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Who is your source?
The lady at the bank that takes care of title work/transfers, etc. She was/is very concerned that her job is at risk.
I'm not sure as to what extent, but I guess that it's already in the works and up and running.
Just what I was told by a woman with tears in her eyes, so it's not all BS. :sad:
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Well that sucks j47
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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There seems to be an awful lot of s53 on here!!!! I don't blame you all a bit!! I think gas here in Southeast Ohio is anywhere from 3.59-3.65 or so. Diesel fuel is way over $4/gal. now. When I started driving, which I guess in the big scheme of thins hasn't been all that long ago (12 years ago) it was shocking if gas was $1/gal!!! I think we should all just start riding our horses..... c109
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just start riding our horses.....
Can't afford to feed them, plus just think of all those greenhouse gases that comes off the manure. Plus the carbon they put out, just by simply breathing!!
s020
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Can't afford to feed them and they won't let us eat them s020
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Can't afford to feed them and they won't let us eat them s020
I bet the Chinese will take them s020 and repackage it as something new and improved!!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I have decided that all fuel prices in the States will be double of Alberta's fuel prices. This will be used as a subsity to lower our prices by at least 1/2.
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Thanks Reeves c109
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You are welcome !
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You all are def. right about the feed prices!! We're just gonna have to plant gardens and stay home!!! Sounds good to me.... All the critters can just go free range and we can just be self sufficient!!!
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we can just be self sufficient!!!
Isn't there a special tax for that ?
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I'm sure there probably is!!! There's a tax for eveything, and if we find something that doesn't have one, give em a little time, they'll come up with it soon enough!!!
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Save fuel and cut pollution in half.............close the airports! ^-^
I still say.............price gouging on everything!!!! "Get it while the gettin's good and blame it on fuel"!!
we can just be self sufficient!!!
Isn't there a special tax for that ?
They already got it covered.......it's called real estate tax.......they'll just have to raise them in order to compensate.
Better yet............
Let's put it on the ballot and actually "vote" to pay more taxes. ??? s47 That's always fun and makes a person feel all patriotic and such. s53
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They already got it covered.......it's called real estate tax.......they'll just have to raise them in order to compensate.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
My place, sight unseen, was assesed @ 80k higher last year. Taxes went way higher. I have made many calls to find out how/why this can take plce on a "false" economy and have NEVER recieved a return call !
Now that it has/is in a down turn, one would think it would go down. Right ?
Nope ! After the bastards get it, no way will it go back. I'm livid about this and have yet to find a person I can chew a new orfice about it.
It's not done yet !!
I'm going to kick and squeal till I get an answer !
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They changed the prices yesterday late afternoon. Was $3.69.9 Now $3.79.9
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$3.50 for regular s80
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The deep sea fishing party boat I go out on just added a surcharge of $100 per charter.
I was wondering how they could keep up the the price of fuel.
I paid $3.65 yesterday to fill my truck.
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Quit yer whine'n. Yer sill buy'n Alberta gas cheaper then I am !
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I'm going to have to cancel my XM radio and won't be able to get Lil' Charlie that new Nintendo Supa Mario Laser Game Dude ($300) for his birthday just to make up for the difference in fuel this year. s47 Poor kid, I hope he makes it without being too traumatized! Next thing you know, people may have to part with one or two of the 4 cell phones they have just to be able to afford tunes for their iPods!! :-o What's the world comin' too?, how we goin' to make it? s47
Just wait until the electric goes out! :-o
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Time to turn off the heat lamps. :grin:
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i just fulled up.. it was 55.00 to fill my tank this week.. last week it was 50.00 and the the week befor last 44.00... what the hell... s12
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it was 55.00 to fill my tank this week
::) I'll trade ya! That's less than half to fill my ride. I can't wait until it hits $7 a gallon, that will be sweet!!
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Those were the good old days j41
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Yesterdays gas prices around the Parkersburg WV 10 mile radius from my house was a $3.67.9 -$3.75.9 and this morning, the prices on all the 4 stations were marked at $3.89.9.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I see Reeves finally posted his picture on here... s020 Gas 3.52 around these parts. I wish they would go ahead and tell us what they are up to and get it over with.... s53
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I agree, this baiting game is getting quite old.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Uk Prices - Petrol £1.15 the litre so $8.52 per US Gallons, Diesel £1.24 so $9.20 per US Gallon :-|
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Holly s53
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Uk Prices - Petrol £1.15 the litre so $8.52 per US Gallons, Diesel £1.24 so $9.20 per US Gallon :-|
Holly s53
You have to take into factor the huge taxes that these countries add to the gas.
When I was in the U.S.N. over seas, back in the beginning of the 70's gas in the states were $.50 and over seas in Italy, Greece, Spain were pushing $2.00US.
Those countries get taxed to death either way you look at it. I would like to know how they pay for there fuel. They have to have one hell of a disposal income, or they can write it off when they fill their taxes.
Either way, we still all get screwed. Big business runs the governments no matter what country you live in.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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When everybody gets 50 mpg, the gas will be $10 a gallon. $10 a gallon is ok, if I'm getting 100 mpg pulling 5 tons of payload down the road.
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U.S.N Hmmmmm.....permission to come aboard Sir!!!!!
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U.S.N Hmmmmm.....permission to come aboard Sir!!!!!
Sure why not s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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When everybody gets 50 mpg, the gas will be $10 a gallon. $10 a gallon is ok, if I'm getting 100 mpg pulling 5 tons of payload down the road.
that is the same c109 they have been doing for over 30 years. They want you to conserve on Elect, Water, Gas(natural), oil. They give out rebates for all the new products. All the products are used,and now what happens? Consumer usage has dropped and now the board of directors is having a panic attack that they are not seeing any new revenue. So what do they do? They jack the price up to make up for the losses due to conservation practices.
It is nothing more then c109, selling new product for a win fall, when thats run it course, start jacking the prices up again until the circle is complete.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Uk Prices - Petrol £1.15 the litre so $8.52 per US Gallons, Diesel £1.24 so $9.20 per US Gallon :-|
It's always been that way as Pheasant Hollow mentioned. Your rides are getting considerable better mileage than ours also. EPA (Enviromental Protection Agency) makes sure that we don't get great mileage (diesel ban). Alot of American cars are sold overseas with a diesel engine, 50-100mpg, and are not permitted to be sold here? :-|
I was looking at a brand new truck the other day, it weighed 84,000lbs. I could put my face in the exhaust pipe and there was absolutely no sign of diesel fuel, it was just warm air, kinda like a torpedo heater. They claimed the air coming out of the pipe was cleaner than it was before going into the intake? I was impressed, no smoke......no smell.
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The prices were being changed at my gas station of choice today as I drove by.
Can't wait to see which way they went. Up or down?
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The prices were being changed at my gas station of choice today as I drove by.
Can't wait to see which way they went. Up or down?
Surely you jest j45
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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They are only going in one direction here...Paid 3.59.9 this am..Lady in the store said she was quiting today...tired of all the crap she is getting from everyone.... c109
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OK so they went up. Can't act surprised.
So guess I'll be happy it's still under 4 bucks j1
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3.98 for low grade - 4.12 for high grade - 4.46 for diesel
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OK so they went up. Can't act surprised.
So guess I'll be happy it's still under 4 bucks j1
Don't blink.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Low grade here today is 3.39.9 . But as a person that has to commute several miles a day in a PU that gets 15 miles to the gallon, it definitely puts a bite in your pocket
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$3.64 for regular s80
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$3.75 today in Barnesville, Ohio. Not that any of you know where the heck that is, but... It's ridiculous!!
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Since I'm payin' about $4.39 for diesel fuel, I'm beginning to grow this hatred for people with gasoline powered vehicles.
s176
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I've got a whisker shy of 50,000km on my truck and haven't paid for a drop of diesel yet :grin:
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I've got a whisker shy of 50,000km on my truck and haven't paid for a drop of diesel yet :grin:
I don't pay for my fuel either. j2 my wife does I can't say it to loud.. j41
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$3.65
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Has anyone seen the new Dodge commercial on TV stating that they guarantee gas or diesel prices no higher then $2.99.9 gal for 2 years or XXXX mileage on the purchase of one of there new vehicles?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Yep saw it last night.......3.53.9 here....
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24 hours and still at 3.65
j45
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3.59 low grade & 4.26 road fuel in up state S.C.
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$3.99 in central CT...87 oct
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3.95 SE Oh
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was 4.05 on Monday for 92... just filled up with 93 at 3.99 today...
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was 3.65 .9 Mondday, yesterday it jumped to 3.75. 9
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It was $3.89.9 yesterday and this morning it went up another $.10.
All 4 stations within a 10 mile radius is now, $3.99.9 a gal.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I am going to try to go into town today sooooooooo we will see.....I have almost stop driving my 1 ton gas burner....am driving the little 4 cy..most of the time now.... s176
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Thought I'd add few websites to help locate the best fuel prices - I'm not convinced they're 100 percent accurate nor list every station - I've noticed there's an independent station in town thats the cheapest but hasn't come up
http://www.gasbuddy.com/
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/default_V3.asp
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/states/index.shtml
http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&src=Netx
http://gasprices.mapquest.com/
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Went up to $3.95 at a couple stations today. One BP was still 3.79 when I came home and boy the lot was packed!!! There was even a police car there. Not sure if it was due to traffic or if someone was stealing the fuel!! s020
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$3.53.9 today
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What's weird is.....that 2 local fuel stations in which I'm friends with the operators claim that they are selling more gas now than they've sold for years. One is going through 14,000 gallons of fuel per day(according to the operator) and there are lines to the pumps. What's up with that? ???
$3.95 here for gasoline, don't know the price of diesel, the last I looked, it was $4.39. I've got to fill truck up in the morning with diesel......about $120 s47 Offroad diesel is $4.11
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When did the 10th of a cent first come in to play? I remember back in the 60's when gas stations such as Moble, Flying "A", Sinclair would post their prices as $0.25.8 or 6 and even lower.
Was this action to show that the price was actually lower then the next highest price? Why even bother in todays pricing, why not just round it up to the nearest $$$ and leave out the . tenth of a cent.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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never mind the tenths of a cent. I just wish they would stop raising the prices by even numbers p33 was under a dollar then about 2 dollars now about 4 dollars. and it's not even prime price raising season here yet here in Maine when school lets out and vacation season comes around the price skyrockets especially near the coast I think I will start riding the horse c109 does anyone else see the vacation time price jump?
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When did the 10th of a cent first come in to play?
A long time ago. I've got fuel price signs out of an old service station when it was around .10 a gallon......they actually read .109, etc. etc..
Of course back then people bought fuel buy the gallon......."Give me 6 gallons and check the oil".
Not the "I want to prepay $6 on...ummmm...uu.....pump 7, I think, that green car over there, and give me 10 numbers on the Mega Millions with these 2 bottles of soda (1.99each)" scenario that you see today.
Pheasant Hollow wrote:
Was this action to show that the price was actually lower then the next highest price? Why even bother in todays pricing, why not just round it up to the nearest $$$ and leave out the . tenth of a cent.
I worked for Sohio many years ago and knew what their reasoning (excuse) behind it was, unfortunately, for some reason my mind only remembers...remembering, not the actual memory itself. Does that make sense? s47 :grin:
Regardless of any reasoning, I would still argue that it is actually a phsychological trick played on human beans minds. Can you imagine the millions that 9/10 of a penny generates? :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
I think I will start riding the horse
That's a good idea, then you can stop along the roadside along the way and let it eat off of everyones yard, then you won't have to buy feed either! ^-^ 'Cause it probably costs as much to keep a horse as it does a car, or is getting there?
does anyone else see the vacation time price jump?
Definitely. I guess people will have to start vacationing closer to home, like they did 20-25 years ago? That's not all bad....maybe the local economies will get a boost? State Parks and campgrounds have been hurting for years around here.
I just put $110 of diesel (small tank) in the truck today. :cry: It takes about 3 tanks to get where I'm going and back in a couple of weeks. Last year it was about $75 a tank full........a $35 dollar difference x 3 = $105. I can live with that, the problem is everything else known to man has gone up too, because of the fuel prices and opportunist price gouging combined.
Just wait until they sock it too us with the electric prices!
I read where only satan himself could straighten any of it out?......for a little while! :evil:
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Before long they will be rounding it off to the nearest $5.00... s020 s020 s020 s020
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What's weird is.....that 2 local fuel stations in which I'm friends with the operators claim that they are selling more gas now than they've sold for years. One is going through 14,000 gallons of fuel per day(according to the operator) and there are lines to the pumps. What's up with that? ???
$3.95 here for gasoline, don't know the price of diesel, the last I looked, it was $4.39. I've got to fill truck up in the morning with diesel......about $120 s47 Offroad diesel is $4.11
I would have to venture to guess that the reason for so much more fuel being used now is partially due to the fact that everyone and their brother has a giant SUV or truck where in years past people have driven VW's and yugos!! The attraction to the big gas guzzlers is slowly but surely going by the wayside!
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When did the 10th of a cent first come in to play?
A long time ago. I've got fuel price signs out of an old service station when it was around .10 a gallon......they actually read .109, etc. etc..
I was wrong on the price signs. Here's a couple pictures of it. It's the same sign, they just flipped it over for 1/2 cent increases in price. Take note as to how the price is rounded off to the next highest number in the right hand column.
I would have to venture to guess that the reason for so much more fuel being used now is partially due to the fact that everyone and their brother has a giant SUV or truck where in years past people have driven VW's and yugos!! The attraction to the big gas guzzlers is slowly but surely going by the wayside!
Sorry, but I don't agree with that. My 3/4 ton crew cab GMC gets better mileage per gallon than my little 4 cyclinder extended cab (12 inches) Toyleta truck. And I can actually do some work with the GMC. I've owned 3 Subaru Outbacks and my wifes current GMC Envoy gets as good of mileage than they did and is a much nicer dependable vehicle all the way around, and again, I can actually work the GMC.
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Maybe... I dunno, was just a thought. I konw I get tired of putting gas in vehicles. Period. And I only have a Chevy Colorado and a Saturn Ion car. They don't suck gas by any means. I would love to have a bigger truck that I could actually haul somehting in, cause the Colorado is kinda worthless for that, but I don't wanna pay for the gas!!!
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jaime7997, Pick yourself up a trailer. That way you can use it when you need it and leave it at home when you don't.
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We do have a little trailer. Usually hauls the 4-wheeler. Hubby is actually re-doing it right now... It had the mesh floor and was getting weathered from being outside, so he took the floor out and put down decking boards and wire-wheeled the whole frame and repainted it... New lights in the process now. It looks good. Honestly, we haul more stuff in the car than the truck! Lay the back seats down and haul boards from the front window to the back of the trunk!! Quite redneck especially whe they are too long and stick out the back...
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Well for today, Wednesday 5/21/08 the gas prices seem sporadic. Prices within a 10 mile radius from my farm range from a Chevron Station@ $3.89.9 to a BP and Marothon @ $3.95.9 which are acrossed the street from each other. The Exxon which is 1-mile from them is @ $3.99.9.
Oil rises above $130 for first time
By PABLO GORONDI, Associated Press Writer
19 minutes ago
Oil prices rose above $130 a barrel Wednesday for the first time, as supply concerns mounted and the dollar weakened.
Rest of the story can be found: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080521/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080521/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices)
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$3.79 in NH
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Oil prices rose above $130 a barrel Wednesday for the first time, as supply concerns mounted and the dollar weakened.
About time you guys started to really pay for our oil ! :grin:
But a shortage ? Nothing but scare tactics ! (and another excuse to raise prices even more)
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I've not read since the beginning, but it's when I see old mens like you posting about gas price that I'm happy to be young and live at parent's house and don't have any car s020
Frank
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Old like Reeves ::)
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I've not read since the beginning, but it's when I see old mens like you posting about gas price that I'm happy to be young and live at parent's house and don't have any car s020
Frank
Hey Frank,
Count your blessings.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Just saw it for $4.35 gal about 10 mins from my house near metro airport detroit jim spider
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Price jumped to $4.09.9 at the stations around my area yesterday afternoon.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$3.84 at 7:30AM in NH
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The True price of Gas
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gas is 3.99 in cadiz oh.
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Heres the current price of gas here.
Actually this was taken in October 1999 in Las Vegas, Nevada. I thought it would be good to take a picture of their HIGH gas prices to show everyone in case they didnt believe me. The price of our gas was about 90 cent a gallon. Hate to see what it is now on the strip.
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They figured out a way to get us and never fired a shot...
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They figured out a way to get us and never fired a shot...
Yup, and the gas by me is up to $4.19.9........
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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They figured out a way to get us and never fired a shot...
The RedCoats are still among us.
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$4.80 a gallon for diesel in Charlotte, NC. 700 miles cost me $340. I'm going to start drilling for my own oil.
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Diesel 4.79 Regular Gas 3.89 Upstate South Carolina. Talked to my Neighbor this evening he planted 70 acres of Corn ,Cost 18000.00 to plant 75 acres after Gly4 , Insurance & Fertilizer. He told me that there no Soy Beans to be bought for the June planting!!! Corn was 120.00 for 50# bag . And we think 11.00> 15.00 is a lot for Quail feed.
I need Insurance when i set Quail Eggs c109
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5/28/08 Mineral Wells Gas prices for the 10 mile radius from my farm, Off I-77 at 3 stations: $4.09.9 and the 7-11 Exxon is at $4.19.9
$.10 differents from 2 miles apart. Local Cop Shops are having budget problems due to the gas prices. Some of the local Cop Shop have started limiting there patrols. s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Up to $3.93 in NH
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When Chuck got home from work last Friday , he found his wife dressed to the nines . He asked her what was up and she told him that he was going to take her out somewhere very expensive tonight. He said no problem...............
so he took her to the GAS STATION !
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You're one funny guy Reeves!!
I wish they'd get it up to $5 even..........it would be easier to figure in your head how much $$ a fella would need to fill a can. With these odd numbers, I have to get out a pencil and paper! s47 :grin:
Overall, it only cost me $100 more in fuel than it did last year for the same trip to NC (about 700 miles round trip).
Everybody better hold onto their britches when the Electric companies jump on the wagon too. :-o
Oil wells around here that have been setting idle for years are getting a working over and they're firing them back up. I have my doubts as to whether it will make any difference if they're pumping oil or not?
Think it's bad here?.........some countries have companies (US based) that own the mineral rights to water.........even the rain water is illegal to catch!!
If Hussien Obama gets his way, we'll have to hunt with a spear and a slingshot in order to eat. s53
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I was working yesterday, so sent the wife with the truck for warranty work (front outside axle seals fell out !) and put two gas cans in the back, told her to fill them. Still empty. Says it's too much money to spend on cutting grass. She plans on less area to cut this year. Neighbor wants to pasture a couple mini horses on a couple areas.
I said no problem.....as long as some one other than ME cleans up the horse pucky !
Good Coyote bait though....
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I was working yesterday, so sent the wife with the truck for warranty work (front outside axle seals fell out !) and put two gas cans in the back, told her to fill them. Still empty. Says it's too much money to spend on cutting grass. Sha plans on less area to cut this year. Neighbor wants to pasture a couple mini horses on a couple areas.
I said no problem.....as long as some one other than ME cleans up the horse pucky !
Good Coyote bait though....
Why even pick it up? It is bio-degradable or use your hoe and pill it up and sell it as c109 to the other neighbors that need the fertilizer.
Then again, if you can get enough of it you can bury it and start a methane gas farm s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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When Chuck got home from work last Friday , he found his wife dressed to the nines . He asked her what was up and she told him that he was going to take her out somewhere very expensive tonight. He said no problem...............
so he took her to the GAS STATION !
Now that's funny, Ya can't just make things like that up. There must be some truth in that some where. j45
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Why even pick it up? It is bio-degradable or use your hoe and pill it up and sell it as to the other neighbors that need the fertilizer.
Drive in any direction for an hour and all you'll see are farms.....no need for dung piles at my place !
That's why I want something like a Deer species. Little small "pellets" that I'll not have to clean up !
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It's gettin' so a guy almost can't leave the house without $50-100 for fear he might not make it back . :-|
Little small "pellets" that I'll not have to clean up
There ya go! It also doubles as dog food, so there's another expense you'd be gettin' rid of? ^-^
Sha plans on less area to cut this year.
Typo? "I" is not spelled Sha or She. It's just one letter......"I".
We all know who mows the grass at your house
some truth in that some where.
No need wastin' your time lookin'..........there's none to be found. Nothin' but pure blatant untruths,,,,,I say!! :-X
c49
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It's gettin' so a guy almost can't leave the house without $50-100 for fear he might not make it back . :-|
Actually you have to go out armed as well. I am starting to feel like a Brinks or Well Fargo armored car whith the cash I have to carry now, just to get gas for the car and farm s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It's gettin' so a guy almost can't leave the house without $50-100 for fear he might not make it back . :-|
Little small "pellets" that I'll not have to clean up
There ya go! It also doubles as dog food, so there's another expense you'd be gettin' rid of? ^-^
Sha plans on less area to cut this year.
Typo? "I" is not spelled Sha or She. It's just one letter......"I".
We all know who mows the grass at your house
some truth in that some where.
No need wastin' your time lookin'..........there's none to be found. Nothin' but pure blatant untruths,,,,,I say!! :-X
c49
"I" do not cut the grass : her job. Mine is to cut it inside the pens: she refuses; too much trouble ::)
No dog to eat Deer droppings. Dogs drop bigger bombs than Deer do ! This is (well one day it will be...I hope) a low maintenance sort of place. Don't want a lot to interupt "pop time" :grin:
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Hey Reeves,
You state that your wife cuts the grass, How does one get the better half to preform this act?
I see the women around here in WV riding lawn tractors with the belly mowers all the time, and my wife won't have any part of it.
So, what's the catch c53 s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Get a job that is mostly away from home !
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Get a job that is mostly away from home !
s020, Fat chance, I am retired j41
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Most places around here the gas is 3.89.9 up the road about 15 miles where Interstate 20 passes threw the Pilot station has there Reg. grade for 3.75.9 now there are 3 other stations there selling theirs for 3.89.9 now thats a big difference in price and there are just as many people buying the 3.89.9 as there is buying the 3.75.9.....I don`t get it??????
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just as many people buying the 3.89.9 as there is buying the 3.75.9.....I don`t get it?
Nobody's hungry............yet. I personally don't shop around. The couple of dollars I might have saved by driving down the road to get the cheaper fuel is burned up getting there, plus the waste of my time. So I don't even bother or pay any attention. People will drive 10 miles to save .08 on the gallon and then walk out of the store with a plastic bottle of water and a $3 energy drink.....that's what I don't get?????......then complain about the price of fuel.
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I do not buy either one of those...the only thing I do in one of those Quick Stops is pay for gas and take a wizzzzzzzz.....
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I do not buy either one of those...the only thing I do in one of those Quick Stops is pay for gas and take a wizzzzzzzz.....
j45 I was thinking the same thing.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I do not buy either one of those...
.....yet there are very many who do.
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The way the fuel prices keep going up, the people who do shop in the convenience store after gassing up will start spending less in there as well.
They will have to make the decision either one more gallon of gas, or the bottled p i s53 s s water, the 1 once energy drink, or the smokes.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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The only two bad habits that I have is these birds and this forum... s020
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I really saw it for the first time last evening...I went to a local chicken place to get some chicken livers for supper around 6pm and walla there was only 1 vehicle there besides mine and usually the place is packed at that time of day...The folks inside said that since gas had reached the 4$ mark that there business had gone to He!!
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6.4.08
Gas price at all stations within a 10-mile radius from my farm: $3.98.9
I still can't post pictures... s53
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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up to $3.94 for regular s80
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Filled up today...3.78.9
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$4.02 and climbing s80 s176 s53
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low grade 4.40 to 4.57 - Norcal
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$4.09 today s80
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Has been $3.99 for a week or so... Dropped 10 cents to $3.89 yesterday.. Woo hoo!!!!!!
Why can't they just drop the 3...
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Wife tells me gas is $1.25.9/L and diesel is $1.32.9/L in town yesterday.
To figger it out in Yankee dollars, you do it !
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4.06.9 here this morning in the great state of maine. s80 s80
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CoopVilla, I was just wondering if you could give us some en site on the new picture that you have on your post. i6
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CoopVilla, I was just wondering if you could give us some en site on the new picture that you have on your post. i6
en site
http://www.david-pye.com/index.php?page=avatars&page2=0&pagenumber=13
low grade was up a penny last time I looked - 4.59
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CoopVilla Thanks for the site, neat. The blow of the pic is quit interesting Thanks again
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just hit $4.09 here s53
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just hit $4.09 here s53
Where are you? Have noticed, if the price is the same whether it contains 10% ethanol or not?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Well went an got gas yesterday for the farm. Price holing steady the last week at $3.99.9 :x
Ever see the signs on the interstate indicating points of interest, like gas, food and lodging?
Well here's a sign coming to a pole near you s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Fitting
Crossed into old Mexico this week.
Diesel $2.55 per gal.
You can transport 150 gallons duty free for personell use every 30 days.
Too bad it is too far to drive for it.
Filled up in Ft. Worth heading there and gave.$4.75 per gallon.
THANKS G.W.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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As of yesterday, within the 10-mile radius from my home, gas prices were $4.09.9 at all the gas stations.
It didn't matter whether it was 100% gas or 90/E10 mixture. The price was still the same.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Prices here are $3.72.9 at most of the stations
This country needs to get it's head out of its s53 and start drilling, wind power, solar power, etc
With all the inflation it's getting to the point where us small bird lovers will have to quit because of the feed prices.
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By Gosh!!!!.....it's that joker setting in the White Houses fault that oil is sky high world wide, he controls the world don't ya know?? That dirty no good fer nuttin'! I bet he's responsible fer da ternados too and all dat water that warshed me driveway out, and the flooding on da Misseshippy! As long as he's around the crows will keep eatin' me corn and coons eatin' me quail and da tomotoes will have e-coli type III florocarbons. :x
What we need in this country is fer a foreigner to come run it, dat would fix all our problems and we'd even have free health care too and we could have group hug sessions twiced a week. I wonder why they haven't thought of that?.......or did they?
s47
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I'm not sure, but from what I see on the national news channels, I think there is a lot of people in the US already working on that goal.
I'm beginning to think maybe the south should have won the war
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Sort-a-funny....on another forum there is a topic about a pipe line oil leak, that goes under a major river.
This is what one person replied:
100-150 barrels!!! that's gonna drive the price up at the pump for sure! first it was 911 then katrina then i heard that all the people in china filled their zippos at the same time (that was a bad one...) now this!! we're doomed!
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Reeves, The person from the other forum, might have a good point.
(now this!! we're doomed!)
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Just wait until you get a load of the price of a bottle of ketchup.
3,678,295,721.67 people eating all kinds of food every day, 60 of them get sick over a 4 month period and they narrow it down to tomatoes? :-| ??? We'll pay for that one.
No way it could have anything to do with the 47 cats running around in the house or the fact that they lived like rats.
Plus, the orange growers are supposedly tearing out their crops and planting the all mighty "jatropha" plant for bio-fuels! That's just great.
Before long, gas will be/seem cheap again at $6/gal when a jug of orange juice is $12.86 and a bottle of ketchup is $9.95.
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Well i guess Mrs Heinz 57 etc, wins again. I'm not negative, really I'm not, really I'm not.
Charlie, by your research, I would say you are died on.
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by your research,
:grin:
All research was conducted in my very own garage, with a few Buddies help, at least 6, maybe closer to 12. ^-^
I would say you are died on.
??? Surely not! Do you really think that I'm seeing things from the other side?
If so, here's a couple recent sketches of me: i3
i4
:angel:
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Have any of you heard about the supposed fuel they are working on making from bug poo? Heard a little thing on the radio about it the other day... Don't know any details, but man, there would have to be a giant bug farm somewhere!!! spider
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Gas prices still hovering at $4.09.9 in the 10-mile radius here.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
Have any of you heard about the supposed fuel they are working on making from bug poo? Heard a little thing on the radio about it the other day... Don't know any details, but man, there would have to be a giant bug farm somewhere!!! spider
Your kidding right j47
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$4.05 still in NH
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I was looking at a set of rather lengthy plans written by a guy in Calif. on how to set your car/truck up to run on pure water..works on 99.9% of all cars/trucks...they have a complete kit ready to install coming out the last of 2008...
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s80
Paid $4.699 for diesel at Walmart this afternoon.....just south of Baton Rouge............
They already have a car that actually runs on air. It is being produced and is for sale....is imported from Europe. I saw it on the internet last week. Don't remember the name but they currently have 4 models, including a pick-up.
Check out the Tesla on the internet. It runs on about 6 or 700 laptop type batteries and outruns the Porche. It's built in California at a cost of about $100k.
David
j4
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Gas prices still hovering at $4.09.9 in the 10-mile radius here.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
Have any of you heard about the supposed fuel they are working on making from bug poo? Heard a little thing on the radio about it the other day... Don't know any details, but man, there would have to be a giant bug farm somewhere!!! spider
Your kidding right j47
I swear I heard it on the radio one morning. I don't know how true it is or if it's just some freak somewhere with a hair brained idea. Need to google... Makes me wonder...
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It's true... Check this out... It's really from a bacteria ("bug") that breaks down organic stuff and produces crude oil as an excrement!!! Interesting....
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/bug-fuel/
And here's an article in case you can't see the video for some reason...I know some folks out there still have dial-up... I'm sorry.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4133668.ece
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It seems that OPEC is the one that loves to cause the speculation in the oil markets.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Oil reached $140 a barrel for the first time ever Thursday following reports that Libya may cut production and an OPEC official said crude could hit $170 a barrel this summer.
According to a report by the Bloomberg news service, Shokri Ghanem, chairman of Libya's National Oil Corporation, said reductions may be made because the market is oversupplied.
Other reasons given by Ghanem: A response to sanctions against Iran, also a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, and a bill being discussed in Congress that could allow lawsuits against OPEC countries.
Speaking to France 24 television Thursday, OPEC president Chakib Khelil said oil prices could rise to between $150 and $170 a barrel during the summer. He added that he didn't think oil would hit $200 a barrel.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc)
And in todays yahoo news
CURB SPECULATION
A 40 percent surge in oil prices this year has prompted U.S. politicians to take steps to try to curb speculation in the oil market, that some blame for pushing up prices.
The U.S. House of Representatives on Thursday approved legislation which directs the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC), the futures market regulator, to use all its authority including emergency powers to "curb immediately" the role of excessive speculation in energy futures markets.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc)
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It's true... Check this out... It's really from a bacteria ("bug") that breaks down organic stuff and produces crude oil as an excrement!!! Interesting....
http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/bug-fuel/
And here's an article in case you can't see the video for some reason...I know some folks out there still have dial-up... I'm sorry.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4133668.ece
Interesting! Thanks for the links.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see a great future for this. It would be wonderful if it could be really done with shavings, compost but I think that it will do like ethanol, they will use a plant that produce a lot of sugar (corn) to make more money with less trouble. So the cost of food after this will rise again because all the morons who are rising their prices due to ''gas price'' will have a new argument to make more money, they think we are stupid, it's funny to see that they try to make us think that the only expenditure they have is fuel.
I think that the best thing in a near futur are electric cars. It's possible to get a car quite powerful, nobody really need to have a car than is doing 0-60 in 4-5 seconds, nobody really need to have a car that can reach 100 mph... Few people are building electric car themselves that are quite good, so the rich companies are able to create something better...
Frank
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I think that you are exactly right Frank....
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Why not sugar cane or sugar beets to make alcohol.
Corn for food and alcohol for fuel
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Why not sugar cane or sugar beets to make alcohol.
Corn for food and alcohol for fuel
Why taking food, I think it's more important to feed humans than to feed our gas thanks. Here in Canada, our ''dear'' governement is trying to obligate people to use ethanol/fuel mix. Ethanol, created like it is now, is really not clean for environment because corn is the worst kind of plant you can industrially use, lots of pesticides, lots of fuel burned, use the earth really faster than most other plants. So, to me, ethanol is a big enemy to Earth saving for the moment.
So finally, I prefer to say ''Why not food for human and electricity (or another clean energy) for car''. Because it's wonderful to think that we can create fuel really fast, but we need to save Earth. I know that some people here are quite old (please don't take it bad) and that some won't probably see the real problems that global warming will bring, but remember that there are young people, like myself (and my kids when I'll be older) that will still be alive. The best legacy you can let to your children, grand-children, etc. is a clean environment...
Thanks
Frank
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Taking that much sugar out of the system would do the same thing that the corn is doing..there is sugar in just about everything..and sugar cane can only be grown in very limited places in this country and corn can be grown just about anywhere..I really believe that it is as they have been saying on TV it is the speculators that are driving everything up so high..
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OK no sugar.... but a battery powered truck?
I can see it with a car. Not so sure with a 4x4 in the winter in NH.
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I've been known to run on nothing but alcohol and air a time or two. Best thing is that the only 2 by-products is methane gas, which can be used as a repellent or maybe run a furnace on it? And a cure for jelly fish stings.
^-^
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A battery powered truck is possible, I've saw a video on YouTube of a guy a bit older than me, at the university, who have done this with an old Datson (or something like) and was telling that with his money (don't forget he's at university!) he was able to run a truck and that the electricity bill of his dad was only $18 higher than normal, it's nothing compare to the $80-100/week (even more) for most of the people who have to use a car...
Methane is also really interessant because, when it's burned, it create carbon dioxide wich is 21 time les polluant than methane.
Thanks
Frank
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Gas prices still holding around the $3.99 to $4.09 a gallon in the 10 mile radius where I am located.
A couple of stations that have the 10% ethanol are priced $.05 cheaper per gallon.
Has anyone seen any difference beside less MPG when using the gas blended with the 10% ethanol, engine running wise?
Any pros and cons on using this blended gas in mowers and chainsaws?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas prices in a 10-mile radius of Slate,WV are $4.09 - $4.15 gal. as of today 7-16-08
I paid on this past Sunday, $3.99.9
The price should be coming down since the price of crude dropped, What happened? Didn't they s12 or the updated version ??? s53 idiots s020
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080716/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices;_ylt=AtbHLDzfW07hygHP.QM3Huqs0NUE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080716/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices;_ylt=AtbHLDzfW07hygHP.QM3Huqs0NUE)
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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What they're not tellin' ya and probably never will, is that they are slowing the consumption down. (Global Warming) (Runnin' out of oil) ??? People won't do it on their own, so the powers that be are going to do it for us. When everybody is getting 50 mpg, the price will be $10.00 a gallon or more.
s16
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They run a little hotter too. not much but a little.
Gas prices still holding around the $3.99 to $4.09 a gallon in the 10 mile radius where I am located.
A couple of stations that have the 10% ethanol are priced $.05 cheaper per gallon.
Has anyone seen any difference beside less MPG when using the gas blended with the 10% ethanol, engine running wise?
Any pros and cons on using this blended gas in mowers and chainsaws?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Shell stn. in town ran out of reg. gas....selling prem at reg price.....so I filled two plasic cans (about 10gal).
Price was/is $1.29.9/L.
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Prices dropped around here to $3.95.9 - $3.97.9 gal yesterday from $4.09.9 - $4.15.9gal.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Reeves, what would that be in US dollars ? just curious.
Does Canada subsidize the price of gas ?
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Reeves, what would that be in US dollars ? just curious.
Does Canada subsidize the price of gas ?
Us dollar and Canadian is close to the same now.
We get no breaks up here. In fact, you can buy Alberta fuels for less than I can !
Not sure of how Canada stands now, but we were the second most expensive place on this planet to live (I think it's the most expensive now ?) and Alberta is the most expensive in Canada to live. Used to be the least......till Ralph Cline took power (he is out now) and mucked up everything.
When the time comes, I'll be selling this place and moving back to B.C.
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4.14 here right now at 856 pm, was 4.19 this morning.
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Thanks, Reeves for the reply. I had no idea the exchange rate was that close.
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Well here it is 7-23-08 and the gas prices in a 10-mile radius from my farm vary from $3.89.9 to $3.99.9
Some relief, not much when you fill up 40gallons though.
Does anyone use those Fuel Link cards? Those are the ones that you obtain from certain supper market stores, like Foodland, Shoprite.
The stores have certain items that have any where from, $0.01- $0.25 off per gallon of gas at participating gas stations. The cent off is good for up to 15-gallons. My wife has accumulated up to $0.97 so far and they are good for 30 days. If you don't use them, you lose them.
Fuelinks MetroSplash Systems Group, Inc.
http://www.fuellinks.com/ (http://www.fuellinks.com/)
The stores might be worth the visit, could save you some money on the gas purchase.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Ours is 4.19 again .
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$3.99 here in NH
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still no change here still $4.19 to $4.15 a gallon.
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Well here it is 7-23-08 and the gas prices in a 10-mile radius from my farm vary from $3.89.9 to $3.99.9
Some relief, not much when you fill up 40gallons though.
Does anyone use those Fuel Link cards? Those are the ones that you obtain from certain supper market stores, like Foodland, Shoprite.
The stores have certain items that have any where from, $0.01- $0.25 off per gallon of gas at participating gas stations. The cent off is good for up to 15-gallons. My wife has accumulated up to $0.97 so far and they are good for 30 days. If you don't use them, you lose them.
at one of the places we get groceries if you spend 50.00 or more on groceries you can get up to 15 cents a gallon off
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I went and got gas yesterday at a partisipating Fuel Links BP station that had gas at $3.89.9 and got the first 15gallons at $2.76.9.
I had saved $1.13 per gallon. Well worth the effort shopping at FoodLand here in WV and using the Fuel links.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Diesel $ 4.45 Ft. Worth TX.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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$3.97 in NH today
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3.89 and holding
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3.89 WI side of the border... 3.60 across the border in Red Wing, MN
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4.12 here in NE MI. s176
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3.76 in ky and coming down :-o
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3.53 here in sw mo
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$3.84 in NH
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$4.79-$4.89 for diesel from Ohio to S. Carolina. What you gassers are saving at the pump, they're making up on the food/etc. end for transport costs.
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Diesel $4.34 Tx.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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gas 3.93, diesel 4.75
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still $4.11 here s80 s176 s53
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Down to $3.77
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Gas prices holding for 2 weeks in a row at $3.69.9 in the 10-mile radius from my farm. They haven't had any Wednesday specials in the last two weeks by knocking the price down by $.05 s80
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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3.41 for gas in southeast AR
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still $4.01 to $4.08 here s80 s53 s176 :x
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Belvidere N J $3.51 today Westtport N Y $3.89 today regular gas
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3.94 this pm. in NE MI
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$3.52 a gallon and falling and hopefully keep falling :-o
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Interestingly, it went down to $3.44 in Wichita, then, yesterday, it jumped to $3.59 (as oil dropped to $111, a 3 month low. Today, it dropped to $3.55.
I wouldn't want the job of setting the price, so the small oil company stations could make a profit, without driving the customers away. If I was stuck with the job, I think I could do it in a more sensible way. (I hope).
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Diesel $3.99 Tx.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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$3.67 today in NH
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$3.41 in Arkansas
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DIESEL $3.95 THIS AM IN TX.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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I wonder if it's possible....
http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/Inve...mentid=9400980
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I wonder if it's possible....
http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/Inve...mentid=9400980
The link doesn't work s80
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas prices still hanging around $3.59.9 to 3.69.9
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I wonder if it's possible....
http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/Inve...mentid=9400980
The link doesn't work s80
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
Guess it's not :grin:
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Try this one....
http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/Investing/JonMarkman/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=9400980
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Regular $3.459 gal Union City N J
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Interesting read. Even while the price of oil is dropping, the price at the pump still remains high.
If the price of oil per barrel does go below 100 US$ you can bet the farm that the US Feds will incorporate the increase on the fuel tax to fund road restoration they were trying before the global price increase.
This will also give the states the initiative to increase the fuel tax for there own state road funding, which inturn will bring the price of US gas per gallon back up to the $3.00 pus per gallon, since the market has accepted it.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Rising here back up to 3.69 per gal...
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its down to 3.52 now and looks to be droping more!!! here in pa
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Got some today for 3.49
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It was $3.55.9 - $3.59.9 yesterday in the 10-mile radius from my farm in Slate WV. I think the drop was just for the Wacky Wednesday, when they usually have the gas discounted, then they raise the price back up within the 24-hr period.
If they don't raise it, it will normally stay at that price until the next adjustment.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Still 3.89 here. Never miss a chance to gouge. s53
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Union city NJ $3.41 reg Essex N Y $3.85
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Diesel $3.85
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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Just got gas within the 10-mile radius. Two stations at $3.55.9 and two others at $3.69.9.
Tomorrow, I will use my Fuellinks card and get $1.30 off a gallon up to 15-gallons. More then likely they are priced at the $3.69.9.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas prices What the s53 Happen the prices went up $.30 a gallon since this morning across the board in the 10-mile radius from my farm.
Did some one break a finger nail? Did we go to war? The s53 ing price of oil is at $118.00 barrel.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Wall street journal had oil at $123 and change(per barrel) this mornings edition
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finally under $4.00 it is $3.95 to $3.91 still to high when i see everbody else paying 20 to 30 cents cheaper.
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I'm glad to see it dropping, now with that $3-4 I'll be saving a month, I can go back to buying bottled water and text messaging, plus bump my contribution to the lottery back up to the $40 a week I was spending 6 months ago instead of the $20 that I'm currently donating.
:grin:
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Just got gas within the 10-mile radius. Two stations at $3.55.9 and two others at $3.69.9.
Dude - How much gas you burning just driving around that 10 mile radius from your farm every other day looking for a few cents difference in savings? j41
That would suck if you drove 10 miles north and then backtracked the 10 miles and went another 10 south and found out that the first place was 25 cents a gallon cheaper. You'd have to go back north 20 miles to fill up and then backtrack south one more time 10 miles to get home.
Whew - that was 60 miles and an hour in the truck to save 3 bucks. s49
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Just got gas within the 10-mile radius. Two stations at $3.55.9 and two others at $3.69.9.
Dude - How much gas you burning just driving around that 10 mile radius from your farm every other day looking for a few cents difference in savings? j41
That would suck if you drove 10 miles north and then backtracked the 10 miles and went another 10 south and found out that the first place was 25 cents a gallon cheaper. You'd have to go back north 20 miles to fill up and then backtrack south one more time 10 miles to get home.
Whew - that was 60 miles and an hour in the truck to save 3 bucks. s49
It's called a land line, and my wife passes by the 4 main stations on her way to work.
You can also find the prices of gas in your local area at: http://autos.msn.com/everyday/GasStations.aspx?m=1&l=1&zip=26150 (http://autos.msn.com/everyday/GasStations.aspx?m=1&l=1&zip=26150) just type in you local zipcode.
Gas prices today $3.69.9-$3.79.9 gal.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I was just joking with you Steve. s020
I've messed with a few of those gas price websites before - they are pretty neat.
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I was just joking with you Steve. s020
I've messed with a few of those gas price websites before - they are pretty neat.
I know s020
I've got an '89 F-150 and it just sits here until I need feed or construction material. 15 miles to a gallon just don't cut it with a 4 speed standard.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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15 miles to a gallon just don't cut it
Heck, that isn't too bad, especially when compared to my 4-cyclinder Toyleta Wheelbarrow Ruster at 18 mpg at its best......at least you can haul something more than a bag a feed and pull more than a 400# empty trailer. s47
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15 miles to a gallon just don't cut it
Heck, that isn't too bad, especially when compared to my 4-cyclinder Toyleta Wheelbarrow Ruster at 18 mpg at its best......at least you can haul something more than a bag a feed and pull more than a 400# empty trailer. s47
CharlieHorse,
When I load up the truck my mpg drops down to about 12mpg HWY.
When I was into boating 1974 - 1994 we discussed about gas consumption in gallons per hr. The best I ever got on my 27' Silverton Sport Fisherman was 10 gal per hr. on a Chry 225hp/318CI with a single screw. I had twin 60gal tanks, and at that time in 1985, the gas was between $.89.9 - $1.10.9 a gal. The marina was selling it for $1.35.9
Those were in the better days.
Gas around my area is going for $3.59.9- $3.69.9 today. Who knows about tomorrow.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I get 20mpg in my GMC empty and about 10mpg pulling 5 tons down RT 77, the West Virginia turnpike will knock the mpg out of just about anything. If I could only control myself and keep it under 75mph, my mileage would probably increase some. But I'm willing to pay the extra $20 so I can race. ^-^
Yeah, that boatin' is some expensive stuff. It's figured in gallons to the mile if I'm not mistaken. I have a cousin that practically lives on the Ohio River down by Hockingport (Belpre/Coolville area), he has a "Baja" boat and it about makes me sick when he tells me of how much it costs him every weekend to just run around. No fishing, seldom skiing or tubing......just runs up and down the river every weekend. :-|
A few years ago I was in the back of a boat when my brother drove it into the riverbank at full throttle, we had to have been running about 50mph. :-o The steering cable locked up and we were to close to the bank and no time to do anything. I broke my seat off at the floor I was pushing backwards on it so hard, bracing myself for the impact. That was one that I'll never forget and a long story. :grin:
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CharlieHorse,
That's the only thing I miss about being in the mountains. I miss the salt air, saltwater fishing and the waves. I just can't see myself going down the OH river.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas prices drop down to $3.49.9 in the area from $3.59.9 -3.79.9. over the weekend.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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3.59.9$ here....
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Thanks to IKE heading to Texas, gas prices jumped to $3.79.9 - $3.89.9 in my area yesterday from $3.48.9. - $3.59.9 s80 I can't wait until it gets there, we should see prices over the $4.00 mark then.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Still 3.59.9 here...
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Middelsex N J reg $3.21 today
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Funny, was just thinking about this topic !
I have Tar Sands samples in the closet here in camp......every time I open the door I get a waft of the stinky stuff !
Here I am, the stuff is laying all over the place. Billions upon billons of barrels of oil !
Site I'm working on right now was 100 miles by 100 miles....was just expanded by double (200x200).
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Funny, was just thinking about this topic !
I have Tar Sands samples in the closet here in camp......every time I open the door I get a waft of the stinky stuff !
Here I am, the stuff is laying all over the place. Billions upon billons of barrels of oil !
Site I'm working on right now was 100 miles by 100 miles....was just expanded by double (200x200).
Good for Quebec !
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Funny, was just thinking about this topic !
I have Tar Sands samples in the closet here in camp......every time I open the door I get a waft of the stinky stuff !
Here I am, the stuff is laying all over the place. Billions upon billons of barrels of oil !
Site I'm working on right now was 100 miles by 100 miles....was just expanded by double (200x200).
Good for Quebec !
???
I'm in Alberta !
Seems you skipped geography in school, eh !
Dumb cur.....
i9
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I know where you are.
I meant the tax revenue it will generate, old frt.
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Guess it was clear, in your head :angel:
:grin:
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It went from 3.59.9 to 3.89.9 this morning...
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Guess it was clear, in your head :angel:
:grin:
That's all that counts, figured you could keep up with me. If not, "your in a heap of trouble, boy".
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Thought I'd chime in with my two cents. Last night at 7 pm many places here near town were between $4.59 at the lowest and $4.99 was the highest. Still saw a couple with gas at $3.89 but traffic was backed up. Sure they went up again by now too.
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Nice to see you posting Larry!! I hope all is well on your end as well with the family.
Warmest Regard,
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Saudis out of OPEC.
The death of OPEC
Posted Sep 11 2008, 07:01 AM by Douglas McIntyre
Saudi Arabia walked out on OPEC yesterday, saying it would not honor the cartel's production cut. It was tired of rants from Hugo Chavez of Venezuela and the well-dressed oil minister from Iran.
As the world's largest crude exporter, the kingdom in the desert took its ball and went home.
As the Saudis left the building, the message was shockingly clear. “Saudi Arabia will meet the market’s demand,” a senior OPEC delegate told the New York Times. “We will see what the market requires and we will not leave a customer without oil."
The rest of the story i5
http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/09/11/the-death-of-opec.aspx (http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/09/11/the-death-of-opec.aspx)
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Sounds a little like Frank.
I hadn't heard this, but, I knew they were planning to encourage higher output. They have a whole new oil field that will be coming on line late this year. That had a lot of analysts thinking sweet crude prices would drop to $65-$85 this winter. Saudi independence from OPEC (if it lasts) will likely make that happen even sooner. I like the idea of $2 gas, but a sharp drop like that in oil isn't a lot more healthy than the steep rises to $120-$130. It will help keep Russia at bay, as well as Communist supported regimes in South America.
This will put a big kink in Obama's tax cuts for the 50% of tax payers that aren't paying income taxes, now.
RED ALERT !!!!
Now would a good time to get rid of those oil stocks, maybe even sell short. And do anything you can to get away from oils stocks in retirement portfolios.
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Sounds a little like Frank.
j16 What sound a little like Frank???
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Sounds a little like Frank.
j16 What sound a little like Frank???
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
the kingdom in the desert took its ball and went home.
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j45 j45 j45 okay.......
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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So, east end of town, $3.79.... West end of town, $3.99. WTF? s80
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So, east end of town, $3.79.... West end of town, $3.99. WTF? s80
My opinion? Buy on the West end. Hope that helps.
Or try to wait a couple of days, oil workers are already moving back out to the rigs, an refineries are reopening
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It is $4.05.9 all over the western side of WV. They are even selling the E10 at the same price.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I heard that wholesale prices had jumped as much as $2 per gallon. Those markets may be closed, today, giving no relief. Mom and Pop, or independent stations probably have more trouble with volatility, and respond with more fear.
Any store that didn't raise prices would be out of gas in a few hours, losing the real profit sales (soft drinks, chips and beer). That doesn't help much when you have an empty tank, but that's part of the situation.
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got up to 4.30.9 around I-20...storm surg...Chevron froze theres at 3.89.9 most places ran clean out...
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Yesterdays gas prices in my 10 mile radius of Slate, WV, ranged from $3.95.9 to $3.99.9 from the $4.05.9 last Sunday.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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3.89.9 most places
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$3.59 here. Crude price drops gas stays the same. Crude goes up gas prices go up.
If the billion dollar company gets in financial trouble we bail them out.
If you or I get in financial trouble we live on the street.
j10
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$3.59 here. Crude price drops gas stays the same. Crude goes up gas prices go up.
If the billion dollar company gets in financial trouble we bail them out.
If you or I get in financial trouble we live on the street.
j10
Boy I do s016 that comment s020 How true it is. I just seems that all the bailouts rest on the Middle Class paying Taxpayers !
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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What a joke, the price of oil drops down below $100.00 per barrel, and the U.S. dollar is on the rebound. Well today the U.S. Gov. decides to bail out another failed money institution. The stocks rally and then drops like a sock full of rocks. U.S. dollar going down because of the bailout and the price of oil per barrel jumps more then $25.00 per barrel. More then at anyone time ever quoted.
I say it is time to nuke all those s53 uks and wipe out Wall Street and go back to the silver and gold standard and not the Federal Reserve Note that we have now...
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Yesterday morn gas was 3.89 locally, by eve it shot up to 4.39, same gas that was in the stations, just jacked the price up.
How long will we put up with this B.S. ?
And Obama is promising more taxes on everything besides.
Have we lost all sanity and cojones??
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That's weird how you did that Jake, those last three sentences kinda blend together. a24
I'd like to know when the roads are going to get less crowded so I don't have to fight the traffic all the time? ^-^ And just think when everybody is getting 40-50mpg........it'll be $8-$10 a gallon.
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Just returned from hunting trip.
Traveled over 4000 miles.
There were 3 of us splitting the Diesel.
The trip cost us 22.5 cents per mile average.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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Prices today: $3.79.9 - $3.99.9. Theses s53 tards don't want to bring it back down to $3.49.9 - $3.59.9 I guess they are anticipating some unknown drummed up problems.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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3.69.9 up and down like a yo-yo... s53
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The BP found that when the other stations were at 3.99 they wernt selling any at 4.29, so they dropped it to 3.99, then the others dropped to 3.89 where it is now.
I topped off at Murphys at Walmart yesterday at 3.859.
Traffic has dropped off a lot up here but apparently not enough.
I used to have a bumper sticker that said " Make the world a better place, shoot a Shiite today". When the Marine Barrack in Lebanon was bombed. Got a ticket and the judge said to take it off. s53
I'm thinkin of getting another made, " Make the world a better place, shoot an Oil Exec today". c110
OTOH, maybe a Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Exec??
So many choices.
s80
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Got a ticket and the judge said to take it off.
I would have been forced to tell him that when he buys my car and pays all and any expenses that go along with it, that then he could tell me what to do with it. The crap that's permitted on the TV nowadays............. well, I better shut up, that burns my hide. I'd had to tell him where I'd like to shove it and would have never taken it off.
:grin:
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I was in NYS then, they are in the forefront of socialist suicide.
They have a law I'd never heard of that prohibits public statements targeting any ethnic group. I asked the court clerk if that meant I could target anyone who wasnt a member of an ethnic group. He just looked at me.
I was going to tell him that that bumper sticker replaces one to make it a better day by shooting judges but the court clerk said I'd want to get out in time to see the great grandchildren graduate.
So I went out and took it off and gave it to the bailiff that was standing there watching.
Thats me, anything to get along.
p33
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The only company that does not bounce there prices up and down everyother day is Chevron..when the gas during the storm a couple of weeks ago was up to 4.30.9 Chevron capped theirs at 3.89.9 the whole time and now are back down to 3.69.9 so that is where I buy.
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$3.49 here today
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So I went out and took it off and gave it to the bailiff that was standing there watching.
Thats me, anything to get along.
I understand completely, and like I can imagine you where.........my mouth would have been running 173 mph the whole time I was taking it off. I may have had to advice them that I had about 100 more to replace it with.
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I'm not prejudiced : I hate all minorities equally !
(you know I just love saying that !)
s020
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3.38 in NH
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$3.75.9 - $3.99.9.
Steve
Pheasnt Hollow Farm
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$3.79 Diesel in Tx.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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$4.05 gal for Diesel in Mineral Well, WV of the I-77 exit.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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We are 'down' to 3.89 s53
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Todays price jump $4.49.9 gal for Diesel from $4.05.9 on September 26, 2008 in Mineral Wells, WV of the I-77 exit. Gas at all locations at $3.75.9 gal.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Diesel up .10 to$3.89 If the bail out had happened no telling how low it would have dropped.
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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$3.69.9 gas and $4.49.9 on the Diesel in our area. s53 diehards won't lower the price.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Down to $3.37 today
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Down to $3.37 today
That must be that Canadian gas you're getting s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Still 3.89 here, 40 miles south its .30 cheaper.
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Pulaski NY yesterday $3.75 Mansfield NJ today $ 3. 21 Salmon fishing was great spent 4 days should go back for 4 more
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$3.21, in central kansas, I hear it's around $3.10 in Wichita.
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Gas prices this morning range from $3.49.9 to $3.69.9 gal with the diesel still $4.49.9 gal.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas prices are down to $3.39.9 to $3.49.9 with the Diesel still at $4.49.9
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Jersey City N J today $2.98 Westport NY today $3 .66
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As of 5pm gas prices drop another $0.11 to $3.28.9 to $3.38.9 but the diesel is still holding $4.49.9 gal.
Steve
Phesant Hollow Farm
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still to high $3.51 for regular here in utah
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3.49 to 3.59
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$3.28.
I had to go back into the store to get change.
My 40 bucks went further than I thought it would. Filled the tank with $38 j2
Can't last long
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$3.03
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3.48.9 cant understand it. We have oil wells everywhere....and refineries .....
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$3.03 now that's not bad
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If the NYSE will stay in the 9000 range there is a good chance it will go down future....but if it goes back over 10000 it will start going back up....
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$3.69 locally, down on the MI/Ohio line it is 3.29, I found one station near Columbus this weekend at 3.219.
Its got a long ways to go. The stock market and futures are both going down more.
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Polk city, Ia $2.93 monday
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Today in Prior Lake, MN gas was $2.99 now if only diesel will drop into the mid $3 range...
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Payed $3.19 at full service last night. It's the last station around here with no self serve lane.
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The only full service around here is your own...
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Gas this morning $3.09.9-$3.19.9 and as of last Thursday all the stations in my area are now serving gas with the 10% ethanol.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Just cant understand why ours has not come down... s53 s53 s53 s53 s53 s53 s53 s53 s53
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It's Bush's fault.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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It's Bush's fault.
Yeah! Dirty rascal!! He's the very reason I borrowed more money than I could ever repay too!
Too bad congress and the senate don't have any say-so in anything! s80
j1
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Right on Steve...He!! its cheaper in California than it is in Louisiana. I tried to call the Governors Office today and could not get his number.....This really grips my A$$......3.59.9 here...Guess that they are still trying to pay for Katrina..
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didn't know there was a full service station anywhere still.
Even Oregon doesn't have full service and it's illegal to pump your own gas there. In Oregon you have to have the attendant pump it for you but that's all the service you can get.
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Whine whine whine ! s020
You folks can still buy Alberta gas, diesel and oils for less then me....and I live here !
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Yea, but we are poor folks down here...Havent you ever heard of poor white trash... s020
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I was told $3.19 up the road about 30 miles this morning. About 40-50 cents higher in my City.
Americans are starting to grow very tired of the millionaires/politicians club. They keep it up and who knows................
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Just past Lynchburg its $2.85
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Down to $2.89.9 - $2.99.0 - $3.19 with the 10% ethanol added.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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3.59 here in northern MI, this past weekend I paid 3.249 just north of Columbus Ohio. Saw one station after that at 3.219.
I do blame Bush, and Congress, Congress for 20 years of sitting on their hands and collecting oil lobby bribes. Bush because he has never taken a single action that would curb the oil companys.
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Amen brother.....
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I totally agree with you to Jake Levi...
gas last night here in MN is $2.99 :)
Yeah poor Reeves...it is the same with my friends in Alaska, they produce all the oil but there prices are higher than ours
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$2.09 here as of 3:00p.m. when I got off work.
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2.09 are you kidding me????????
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Has anyone else seen there gas gradually changing over to the 10% ethanol?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I think that Murry Oil is doing it and they sell at WalMart...They have so many stickers on those gas pumps that I do not pay to much attention to them any more..
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I don't know if it is a state mandated thing or Federal mandate.
It is getting harder to find 100% gas, just like when they changed over to unleaded.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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The Japs have a new car out that runs on 100% water.... s98
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The Japs have a new car out that runs on 100% water.... s98
Water costs money. Develope a vehicle that runs on either solid cow and c109 then we will talk business.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Pretty Plentyful around here...
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$2.89 today here (WC, Iowa)
Got a buddy here working on a hydrogen run car that distills the hydro from water while on the road.
got the motor built just need to figure out the rest.
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$2.95 here in Maine . my father in law is running that water for gas system on his Nissan truck. he tried to get me hooked on it. Not something I want to try on my new truck. he called me the other day to ask about why his check engine light suddenly came on and he has about 10 trouble codes stored after the first highway trip since hooking the system up. ???
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Dropped to 3.29 this afternoon, from 3.49 last eve.
The system I'd look into is a natural gas but am told its expensive for the conversion, plus finding it while traveling. But its half the price of gasoline.
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I'd look into is a natural gas but am told its expensive for the conversion, plus finding it while traveling. But its half the price of gasoline.
So was diesel, until VW and M. Benz started selling cars here. Add $.80 to the price of Natural, and you get an idea of the real cost. Plus when the demand goes up.......
Reg. gas is $2.61 in Wichita Ks. Dropping 2-6 cents per day, often three changes in one day. Don't hear a lot of people praising Bush and Cheney, the way they cussed them six months ago. Just like the credit I get for the things I do.
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Diesel at $3.99 today!!! Yehawww!!, now I can buy that plastic bottle of water I was needing.
Bush and Cheney
As if they're the ones running this country. Congress and senate are the culprits to everything, yet most Americans are too _amn naive to even know how the system works and how they distract everyone from who is really responsible. Now there's 2 of them in the running that haven't done a s53 thing to straighten it out in the 30+ years they've been in there and all of a sudden are "reformers"!!! Elect the very fools that have created/promoted the problem to president.
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Diesel at $3.99 today!!! Yehawww!!, now I can buy that plastic bottle of water I was needing.
Bush and Cheney
As if they're the ones running this country. Congress and senate are the culprits to everything, yet most Americans are too _amn naive to even know how the system works and how they distract everyone from who is really responsible. Now there's 2 of them in the running that haven't done a s53 thing to straighten it out in the 30+ years they've been in there and all of a sudden are "reformers"!!! Elect the very fools that have created/promoted the problem to president.
What he said
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Still 3.29 here today.
In 2005, and again in 2006 the Gop tried to enact bills to put restrictions on Fannie Mae and Fredie Mac, the Dems led by Pelosi and Reid voted it down, including Obama.
McCain spoke out against the free money of Fannie Mae and Fredie Mac in 2006 and tried to enact a bill with five other Senators(Republican) but it was tabled in the Dem dominated committee.
Obama has NEVER voted against his party leaders, McCain has often worked with Dems to enact legislation.
Palin enacted legislation in AK returning large portions of the oil field revenue to the states population. She has more experience in executive management then Obama and Biden combined.
Emotions are running high, which is good, people feel strongly about these matters as they should, but lets not blind ourselves to what has and is happening. This big bailout is socialism leaping forward, and bails out the fat cats who caused this mess with us paying for their lifestyles. There are 545 people in Congress/Govt who have created this mess, only a handful who are honest enough to say what has and is happening and has any sound ideas to turn it around, which will take years now.
Nuff. Off my Soapbox.
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It helps when the WORLD price of crude takes a big drop, nothing to do with politics!
Lets see, we pump the crude, refine it and sometimes it only has to travel a couple of miles to a Service Station. An example of how we get shafted, U.S. gallon = 3.87 Canadian Litres, so at $115.9 a litre x 3.87 we are paying $4.48 for a U.S. gallon of gas. $3.29 a gallon is only $.85, we haven't seen it that low in years. s49
We are paying $121.9 a litre for diesel x 3.87 = $4.72 a gallon! s49
It wasn't just VW and M. Benz, that made diesel popular, there aren't too many 3/4ton trucks running around up here with out Ford/Dodge/Gm on them! s176
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3.15 yesterday major drop Sat.
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It wasn't just VW and M. Benz, that made diesel popular, there aren't too many 3/4ton trucks running around up here with out Ford/Dodge/Gm on them! s176
As I remember it, the big swing with pickups, down here, came later. There were a few, Chevy had a halfazz diesel in about 78-79. But they weren't really popular until later, when more dependable engines were available. I also seem to remember there was an increase in diesel highway tax. I think, maybe at one time there was very little, or no tax on diesel, because trucking was so important to the economy. If Natural gas becomes practical, and popular, there will eventually be a drop in tax revenue. It will have to be taxed, or we'll have to go to hovercraft to get over the rough roads.
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Regular gas has dropped to $2.84 a gallon here in Ky YEA HA. t15
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Chevy had a halfazz diesel in about 78-79.
Wilder I have spent the last 25 years trying to forget that 5.7 litre converted 350 piece of c109. that setup works OK for john Deere but gm did well to get rid of that thing.
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2.79 Fort Lee NJ 3.49 Westport NY
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NY never misses a chance to gouge, on anything.
Last eve dropped to 3.19 at the local BP after all other outlets were already at 3.19 for a day.
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$2.95
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$2.91.9 for gas and diesel $3.99.9 yesterday.
..........and a barrel of oil is under $75.00
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$2.99
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Our local gouger, a BP is at 3.09, all other towns around its at 2.99 including a couple BPs.
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2.85
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Just got gas to 2.97
It stinks that I think that is cheap!
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Seems funny...Alberta has a fuel shortage ! Ran the hoe out of fuel two days ago.....now when we see a fuel truck we beetle over to it and beg for a tank full s020
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Locally its 2.99, but filled up at Murphy's Walmarts US brand yesterday morn at 2.839, the lowest I have seen in over a year. Oil continues to drop by the barrel.
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Down to $2.899 a gal. in my area.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$2.69 Plainfield NJ today
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$2.87 in Spanaway, WA today.
They say OPEC is going to meet this week to stop the drop.
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They weren't hurting any, a year, or so ago when the price was about the same. Some US producers will have to stop some pumps, if it drops much more. As long as Saudi Arabia stays out they won't get a big raise by cutting production.
It will also be harder to keep pressure on communi, I mean Sociali, I mean Liberal politicians to allow exploration we need to allow us to spit out the Middle Eastern and Venezuelan teats.
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just got back from murfreesboro Ar. Gas there $2.78 Fri., Cheapest I got was in Joplin, Mo $2.28. Most of rest of Mo was $2.37- $2.39. Ia was $2.37 in Des Moines and $2.39 30 miles north. Our town, Webster City, is still $2.59 Local oil co. has a monopoly on the stations.
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$2.74
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$2.799 with the 10% ethanol added.
Is there anyone else here that see this being add?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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2.99 here locally, south a ways its 2.83.
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$2.66 with 10% ethanol added
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$2.62 Union City NJ Westport NY $3.31
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2.67.9
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2.65
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Diesel $3.05 TX
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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$2.89 regular.
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Harmony NJ $2.39
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$2.599 - $2.699 all with the 10% ethanol added.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$2.249 Franklin, Indiana. All the stations in town, not just one.
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After the drop, it's still $3.79 a us gal. $097.9 a litre x 3.8 s176 c/w 10% corn juice!
WTF we refine it here? 19c= Fed tax, 6c = Gst, 10c = Provincial tax $0.035 of every litre is tax, that's over 30%. Diesel is still $432.8 a us gal. s80 s53
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$2.41 yesterday
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2.13 today. First time I got to fill the tank for less than my first born son! j1
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$2.24 here now finally after two weeks of .30 higher than all the rest of the state. price we pay for having only one local oil supply company for the three nearest towns. You can always tell when the owner is getting ready to go an his vacation to the islands.
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hopefully that is coming this way still about $2.60 here one local station had a promotion $1.99 per gallon.
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2.64 locally, over the weekend I filled up 40 miles south of here at 2.49.
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Been back in Mo. for a couple of days, now. Just drove to town for Diet Coke. Shell has reg. Unleaded for $1.99.
I figured we'd be omong the first to drop below $2.00. The gas taxes here are pretty low.
Joplin was $2.05, Sat.
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$2.19 today
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$2.65.9
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Todays gas prices for the Mineral Wells, WV area: $2.499-$2.599 with the 10% ethanol.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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2.69 locally, up a nickel.
Sa5t. I filled up 40 miles south of here at 2.59.
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2.59.9
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$2.42.9
Wonder how much lower before someone starts yelling they aren't making any money?
I have already heard that the lower gas prices will hurt out economy. I think it would rather help it. More people travelling and more money to spend on other things.
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$2.09 today here
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The gas prices dropped yesterday at 4pm in the Mineral Wells, WV area: from: $2.499-$2.599 with the 10% ethanol, to $2.399-$2.499 .
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$2.09 today here
WOW! You are almost under $2.00!
We are at $2.39.9. we also have the ethanol added.
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$2.09 today here
WOW! You are almost under $2.00!
We are at $2.39.9. we also have the ethanol added.
marvinmckenzie,
Where are you located at? Gas here in Slate,WV still $2.399 - $2.499 with 10% cream corn added j44 .
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas just hit the Mineral Wells, WV area this morning. It is now down to $2.299. Naturally the 10% cream corn is added.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Ours locally finally got down to 2.49. its got a ways to go but thats a huge improvement.
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2.42.9
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Finally gas is under $2.00 . Here in north Arkansas it is $1.96 .
Brent
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Finally gas is under $2.00 . Here in north Arkansas it is $1.96 .
Brent
What is the state tax on your gas? s53 en WV takes $0.49 a gallon for taxes to support welfare and road maintenance,,,,,,,,,,,,and neither of these two services that they do are worth c109
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I don't have a clue as to how much the tax is on gas here in ARK. I do know that it dropped to $1.93 for gas with some good ole 10% corn mixed in. The corn farmers should be rich now.
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$1.99 today
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$2.29
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Gas in the Mineral Wells, WV area this morning. It is now down to $2.19.9 -$2.29.9 Naturally, let's not forget the 10% cream corn is added.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I think our tax is .47
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I think our tax is .47
You have the ethanol plants up there don't you?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Gas prices in the Mineral Wells, WV area yesterday: $1.989 - $2.039 with the diesel holding at $3.359 a gallon.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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I put the last of my free diesel in the truck last time home. I have enough in the tidy tank for maybe one more fill up......then I have to buy fuel like you peons. :sad:
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I put the last of my free diesel in the truck last time home. I have enough in the tidy tank for maybe one more fill up......then I have to buy fuel like you peons. :sad:
s016 to the real world Reeves s020 where the majority of us peons have to pay for our fuel. j2
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Ya, well, I'm looking for a new job that pays less so I can get some more free fuel ! t15
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Ya, well, I'm looking for a new job that pays less so I can get some more free fuel ! t15
There ya go!! When ya heading out again?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Yesterday !
Snow all the way from my place. About 2"-3" on the ground now....but it is the wet kind. One "warm" day and it will be gone. But I do not expect any warm weather till next April/May up here.
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Yesterday !
Snow all the way from my place. About 2"-3" on the ground now....but it is the wet kind. One "warm" day and it will be gone. But I do not expect any warm weather till next April/May up here.
If ya at work, have a safe day out there today and a safer day tomorrow.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$2.01 in NH
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2.07 yesterday...
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All this cheap gas is pluggin' up the roads with cars, makin' it hard for me to get around. It was alot easier to travel when it was closer to $4 a gallon.
a27
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Enjoy it while you can......"things" are being done to get the price back up. Many oil/gas companies are shutting down work ie: drilling.
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T-Bone Pickens says it will be back to 4$ right after the first of the year..
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d j45down too 1.97 yea
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$1.819 - $1.989 In a 20-mile radius of Slate, WV
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$1.83 in Sioux City, Ia. j1
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Diesel $2.54
Larry Lain
www.doublelquailfarms.com
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$1.789 - $1.819 with 10% cream corn added.
Diesel $2.99
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Well, I cannot say what will happen with the prices in the future....I can say there are now 10s of thousands and I've heard numbers over 3.4 million people getting a lay off (for work) up here ( yes, I'm one , later this week).
Funny....the States owns most of the Tar Sands. Most of it is shutting down and new projects are being canceled left right and center.
Banks up here are going to take a pounding as well......not looking good....cannot help but wonder where it's going...
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really sorry to hear your getting laid off reeves il be praying for you ...its happening far to much s176 gas here 1.87 for reg c53
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$!.69 :grin:
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They're keeping diesel $1.00 higher per gallon than gasoline. What lousey excuse do they have for that?
j10
......not looking good....cannot help but wonder where it's going...
Me too. :-|
But we probably shouldn't worry about it, Hussein Obama and the same Clinton cronies are going to fix everything......worldwide. :-| Just think, it will be same crowd (Bush's, Clintons) running the show for 24 years straight, will almost have Saddam Hussein's record beat. s47
c109
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1.67.9 crazy !!!!!!
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1.21$ per liter!you guys have really cheap fuel!,2 months ago fuel was 1.60$ per liter!
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$1.79
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$1.59 a gallon who would of thought this a month or two ago.
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1.57.9 I think that I am going to take the 1 ton Ford down and fill both tanks to the rim....
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81.7 a litre for regular 112.7 a litre for diesel
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81.7 a litre for regular 112.7 a litre for diesel
s016 to the boards Outbackhill Kennels .. Nice website by the way s98.
yahoo: SINGAPORE – Oil prices fell to a 3-year low below $48 a barrel Tuesday in Asia, as more bleak U.S. economic news and plunging stocks markets darkened investor expectations for crude demand.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081202/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices
Gas in my general area here in WV, has leveled out at $1.799 Someone is holding out. the gas prices should be in the $1.25 range at these prices.
They are still a bunch of s53 ing thieves, even with the 10% creamed corn added.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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now now ,pleasant those poor billionares gotta have a christmas too lol gas is steady here too at 1.67 cream corn @10 percent here to,lol j2
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really sorry to hear your getting laid off reeves il be praying for you ...its happening far to much s176 gas here 1.87 for reg c53
The only person on this planet, that would pray for this evolutionist ! s020
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j41 lol reeves honey ...my God loves every one he loves unconditionally even if you dont beleive in Him ...i guess im that way to ...no im not a religious nut guys ...i dont beleive in religion per say its just mans interpetation of a supreme being..im sure ill get some ribbing for this ..but i do have a real relationship with God ...sorry if i sound like im preachin ...by the way so i dont git yelled at for bein off topic gas is at 1.79 with 10 percent cream corn s020 ps im still prayin for you...
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Price of gas in my area of Mineral Wells, WV $1.739 w/ 10%creamed corn and diesel still at $2.999.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Drove the truck over 61,000KM and just put $25.00 of fuel in it.
Not too bad milage, eh !
$0.949/Lt
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Drove the truck over 61,000KM and just put $25.00 of fuel in it.
Not too bad milage, eh !
$0.949/Lt
j45 what r u in england?...km...lt..speak american english my good man ..i miss quoted gas found it at 1.69
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Gas is at it's lowest point in the past 5 years!! $1.46-$1.75 nationwide. :-| Must be Bush's fault, that dirty no good..... :grin: What's the deal with diesel? Still over a dollar more than gasoline. s53
Something is up with gas prices going down this much............. :-|
c49
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Gas is at it's lowest point in the past 5 years!! $1.46-$1.75 nationwide. :-| Must be Bush's fault, that dirty no good..... :grin: What's the deal with diesel? Still over a dollar more than gasoline. s53
Something is up with gas prices going down this much............. :-|
c49
With the general public low on cash, Companies closing doors, the need for gas has almost come to a screeching halt.
The trucking industry still has to carry the ball, so the oil industry will keep diesel prices as high as possible, without making it look like price gouging.
Just my take on things.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Got diesel for under a buck a litre, that would be $ 91.9 x 3.87, for Ode2, or $3.55 a U.S. gal.
Gas for the wifes Yukon was $74.9 = $ 2.89 a U.S. gal.
Sure glad we got soooo much oil and gas here, the prices would be way higher if we had to rely on Saudi! s53
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Yeeehaawwwww!! Now I can get back to going to Walmart Twice a day in my 1 ton!!
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This isn't going to last. At least Hussein doesn't have to back down from his, "I'm going to get gas prices down" promise that he made, like he has so many others that he's already backed down from already............and he isn't even in there yet!! LOL!! What a joke! :grin:
Just goes to show how easily they can control the masses. The water is being tested.
Sure glad we got soooo much oil and gas here, the prices would be way higher if we had to rely on Saudi!
Is that scarcasm I sense? :grin:
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$1.699 locally here within the Mineral Well area. Diesel still $2.999
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Got diesel for under a buck a litre, that would be $ 91.9 x 3.87, for Ode2, or $3.55 a U.S. gal.
Gas for the wifes Yukon was $74.9 = $ 2.89 a U.S. gal.
Sure glad we got soooo much oil and gas here, the prices would be way higher if we had to rely on Saudi! s53
j45 thanks for the translation...lol ...gased up today at 1.59 today i4
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$1.46
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1.47.9 per U.S. Gal.
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$1.64
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$1.45 here j41
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$1.51 for now. Cash sale only.
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It dropped to $ 1.59 here yesterday, our lowest in four years.
Which simply proves that all that has gone before was gouging.
s53
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I wonder why our WONDERFUL elected officials can`t see that????????????
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still steady at 1.59 :grin:
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1.45.9 per U.S. Gallon
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s53 in gas went up $.10 a gal here to $1.799 locally within the Mineral Well area. Diesel still holding @ $2.999
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Most of ours locally dropped to 1.59 yesterday, lowest here in 4 years. A couple holdouts still at 1.74, not sure what they are waiting for. To be ready for the next gouging?
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Gas today still $1.799 locally within the Mineral Well area.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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now that the election is in the bag i think itll start going up again s178 fill your cars people even the non working ...i guess youll have to add something to the fuel so it doesnt freeze right? s20
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i guess youll have to add something to the fuel so it doesnt freeze right?
Now THAT is FUNNY !
s020
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$1.39
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Gas and diesel about the same today.
74.9 for gas, 79.9 for the fuel of course that is still way more then y'all are paying.
$74.9 x 3.87 = $2.89 U.S. gal or x 4.55 = $3.40 for the old imperial (cnd.) gal.
$79.9 x 3.87 = $3.09 " " " " " " = $3.63
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Don't like it when you get you calculator out :cry:
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Up .10 today...
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Filled the truck tank while in town today.
$0.899/L
$53.87 = 59.935L
Figured while there I'd put some in the tidy tank....if I don't have to go to town for fuel, it saves me fuel/money.
$100.00 = 111.255L
Tidy tank holds 420L but I don't need that much.....yet.
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took a .15/gal jump wed. here. $1.69.
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Plainfield NJ $1.42
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Plainfield NJ $1.42
i heard in the news there was gas for 1.25 in indy ...did you see that ?
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Here in north central Arkansas is $1.20 t15
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Still $1.699 in the Mineralwells, WV area.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$2.09-$1.52 Same town within a mile of each other.
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Here in north central Arkansas is $1.20 t15
dannnng almost worth the drive lol 1.52 here in florida
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Here in north central Arkansas is $1.20 t15
dannnng almost worth the drive lol 1.52 here in florida
Just bring a couple of 55 gallon drums with you when you do the road trip.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Price is creeping up. Now at $1.56
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Here in north central Arkansas is $1.20 t15
dannnng almost worth the drive lol 1.52 here in florida
Just bring a couple of 55 gallon drums with you when you do the road trip.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
yeah id probably burn up my savings in the truck id need to haul it...lol...i dont think itll fit in my mini van s178 gas creeping up here too 1.59 this am
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Still $1.699 in the Mineralwells, WV area.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
From my post December 29th, the gas prices have gone up to $1.899
That is a 20 cent increase and the holiday season is over. The last time I read about the price of oil it was below $36.00 a barrel.
Anyone else seeing these drastic increases?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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t15 sorry gas is down to 1.50 here at sams club
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The last time I read about the price of oil it was below $36.00 a barrel.
Up to $47.64 this morning.
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Two days ago it was $ 1.61 here, last night it went up to $1.89.
Go figure.
Never miss a chance to gouge. oil did go up $3 a barrel, but that shouldnt jack it up 28 cents a gallon.
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Jake, you can still fill up with Alberta gas, for less than we can....in Alberta !
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I guess it is to see how well we will cope with the obama administration when it goes back up to the $4.00 mark.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$1.51
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Average is $145.9
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Just a reminder.
Oil shortage
A lot of folks can't understand how we came
To have an oil shortage here in Canada
Well, there's a very simple answer.
Nobody bothered to check the oil.
We just didn't know we were getting low.
The reason for that is purely geographical.
Our OIL
is located in Alberta, Newfoundland,
Saskatchewan and B.C.
Our DIPSTICKS
are located in Ottawa, ONTARIO
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s020
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Up to $1.989 around the Mineral Wells area of WV. At this rate, we should be back up to the 3-4$ mark by mid Feb.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Good to see your price at the pump going up.....when the price per barrel goes down ! :grin:
Monday $47.64
Tuesday $49.36
Wednesday $47.35
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Just went down again.....$45.55 barrel.
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IT is now $1.69 here in North Cent. Arkansas. s176 s176 s176
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It went from 1.61 locally to 1.99 in a week, or less. As the price per barrel went down.
Never miss a chance to gouge.
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average still 1.55 per gal im gonna go fill up before we catch up with everyone else :grin:
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I bought gas in Ohio yesterday , at 1.849, got up to MI and it was 1.89, all over, got 45 miles from home and the town was having a gas war so I topped off at 1.85, got home and its 1.99, the last news item I heard was that oil continues to drop per barrel as demand drops.
Gouging continues, by the speculators on Wall Street.
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1.69 in NH
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Last night the price per bbl was $36.10.
Up to $38.14 this morning.....so far.
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Gas still $1.999 here in the Mineral Wells area. Glad I am retired and don't have to gas up like the working folk. i6
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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gas increases made theyre way to fl too filled up at 1.77 s176
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gas took a .19 jump a week ago here. $1.79 now
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1.53.9 per US Gal.
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Fox news says oil is now just under $ 38 per barrel and still falling, oil tankers are backing up and cant unload because there is no place to store the oil because demand isnt keeping up with the supply.
local gas here still is 1.99.
The gouge goes on.
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another increase today here. Now $1.84. Bunch of thievin fuel distributers here!
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i hardly went anywhere last week still almost full scared to look at prices...i heard someone else started another war?..sounds like a cheap excuse to me s176
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Any excuse is sufficient for gouging.
Oil is now under $34/barrel, gas here is still 1.99, I'm not driving anywhere I dont have to.
Oil tankers are stacking up not able to offload as there isnt storage space for the new crude.
But still they gouge us, present prices supposedly is because oil speculators are buying up cheap oil and holding it.
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Any excuse is sufficient for gouging.
Oil is now under $34/barrel, gas here is still 1.99, I'm not driving anywhere I dont have to.
Oil tankers are stacking up not able to offload as there isnt storage space for the new crude.
But still they gouge us, present prices supposedly is because oil speculators are buying up cheap oil and holding it.
It is the same price here Jake, $1.99.9 Nothing being done on dropping the price. I think the lowest here was $1.59.9 and the crude was around $50 a barrel.
To cold to go out anyway.
Keep warm!
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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$1.75 and headed higher. Lets see if it will stop at $2.50 this time around.
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Its still under $ 34/barrel, and pump prices here are 1.99, last week I was in Ohio and found some at 1.84, but most over 1.90.
This time its the speculators, and congress is obsessed with Obama and couldnt care less about what the little poor f### nothings are paying for gas.
We need about 50 of those speculators to be found in their car trunks. Where is Tony Soprano when you want him.
Color me PO'd. s176
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im with you jake ,i hope im never that rich to not care about other people ..with low incomes, like grandmas ,stuggling small business owners etc... gas holding for now at 1.79
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Well, during the campaign Obama said we 'needed' higher gas prices, so I'm not expecting any help from there.
Its 1.99 here still, and oil the lowest its been in five years.
The only working answer is speculators and gouging. And a congress that couldnt care less.
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im sure he'll need more than higher gas prices to fund his plans ...next topic ...higher ------- s20 still holding at 1.79 ...does anyone know why they say not to top off your tank?...i keep mine full..outta fear, i9
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does anyone know why they say not to top off your tank?...
It's to help prevent condensation inside the fuel tank.
Can YOU tell me why it is even MORE important to do this with vehicles using diesel ?
i9
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does anyone know why they say not to top off your tank?...
It's to help prevent condensation inside the fuel tank.
Can YOU tell me why it is even MORE important to do this with vehicles using diesel ?
i9
Actually, toping of a gas fuel tank in the older days was the best thing you can do in the winter months if the vehicle was going to be kept in storage.
Having a tank full, kept the condensation out of the tank due to the fact that there wasn’t any air space to cause corrosion within the tank.
Before the additives such as oxygenated gas, I would fill the twin 30gal galvanized tanks on my boat and add the additive, STA-BIL fuel stabilizer. Winterize the 318 Chrysler by fogging it out with Marvel Mystery Oil over the winter.
Topping of a gas tank now-a-days serves no purpose what-so-ever, unless you see that the gas prices are going to go up.
Besides the fact, that any gas fuels that are sold today, to the general public has a shelf life, and starts to separate after 6 months if not used or not in constant motion, or agitated. It will also show more signs of gumming as well.
I will let ode answer the question about vehicles using diesel.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Steve
My old 86 GMC is still has a carb. All the old gas from weed wackers etc goes into the tank.
Filled both tanks this past fall. Will not likely ever get filled again.
Gotta love those older vehicles ! :grin:
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uhhh diesel ? i9 isn't that one of my son's favorite cartoons? sorry guys i know I'm opening the door for ya ll to hurl endless insults at me but I'm clueless about diesel ..i can change tires ,alternator,filters,brakes and the oil, thats where my knowledge of cars ends s47