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Title: Info needed on Coturnix japonica (Pharoah quail) varieties and genetics
Post by: midnightline on May 17, 2007, 06:55:30 PM
Hiyas,

I'm new to quail in general (still in the information-gathering phase, don't own any yet), and I'm trying to find information about the existing phenotypes and correponding genotypes of pharoah quail.  A google search yielded access to a couple abstracts in a science journal which suggest that most of the varieties of pharoah quail are the result of dominant genes.

Is there anyone out there who can give me a list of the varieties (phenotypes) that currently exist, what genes/gene combos they correspond to, and/or the behavior of the known genetic traits?

Or, in less technical terms, does anybody know what you get if you breed different varieties together?

-Kat
Title: Re: Info needed on Coturnix japonica (Pharoah quail) varieties and genetics
Post by: JohnInDixon on May 18, 2007, 10:26:35 AM
If you can't find what you're looking for here using the search button above, try here..
http://www.gbwf.org/quail/index.html

John
Title: Re: Info needed on Coturnix japonica (Pharoah quail) varieties and genetics
Post by: midnightline on May 18, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
Thanks, but I am not looking for care information.  I am looking for quail morphs/varieties and what crosses you need to do to produce each kind.  The following link is more of the kind of information I am looking for:

http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/70/3/205

-Kat
Title: Re: Info needed on Coturnix japonica (Pharoah quail) varieties and genetics
Post by: gsc on May 18, 2007, 02:42:28 PM
I don't know of a document that will give you this.  Most of the folks who are active here are into the hobby or raising for profit.    The last work that has been done that I am aware of is from Texas A&M but my understanding is that even that development, while the plumage color has remained intact, the carcass size has reverted.  The same seams to be happening to the giant varieties as well.  The genetic research is usually outside most people here.  Reeves?  Trailboss?  Beyond that google seems to be the best bet, that or try getting a response from the scientific community.

Good luck on your research.
Title: Re: Info needed on Coturnix japonica (Pharoah quail) varieties and genetics
Post by: midnightline on May 18, 2007, 02:59:09 PM
I guess I'm used to the cornsnake community, where half the fun is crossing one variety to another, and breeding the F1s to get an F2 generation to get individuals that show a combination of both parental traits.  (Most cornsnake genes are recessive.)  None of it requires any actual genetic testing, just careful crossing and observing the results.

-Kat
Title: Re: Info needed on Coturnix japonica (Pharoah quail) varieties and genetics
Post by: falconer_39 on July 06, 2007, 08:47:16 AM
hello Kat
I myself don't have a clue about genetics. I have a white pharoah that has a brown dot on her head  don't know how she came about but she is small
speaking of what I do know if you mix two different bird together you get both birds traits I have a gyr/prairie falcon hybrid and he has feather color of both parents but thank god he does not have the temper of a prairie
falcon
David