That Quail Place Forum
Raising Gamebirds => Supplier Feedback => Topic started by: !BigHogLeg! on May 03, 2004, 06:08:35 AM
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Hello,
I ordered some of the Giant Coturnix from Lake Cumberland last year. I gotta say the eggs looked great and they were large. Well now here is the kicker. I just weighed all my birds that I hatched out from Lake Cumberland. I had not a single one that weighed more than 10 Ounces. I have been feeding them purina gamebird starter/grower since babies. I have always had feed available and fresh water changed out daily. This isn't too good for some birds that are supposed to get to 16 Ounces. Not a single bird more than 10 Ounces out of a houndred total. Now that's a ripoff.
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I have had good luck with eggs from Lake Cumberland......Good hatch rate, (even shipped in the dead of winter), good healthy birds, etc. I can't comment on the weight of the birds, I have never weighed one. But I think that birds will vary even from the same supplier. There are alot of variables in the bird business I believe. I would not hesitate to order from them again. Just my Opinion.
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I also have ordered these eggs from David. The 500 eggs arrived in great shape. Out of the 500 eggs, I had around 300 hatch. Which in January, that isn't to bad. Out of the 300 that hatched, I would say that I have about 6 - 8 birds that has reach the 14 oz. weight.
But, everyone muse be aware. Even if the birds are 16 oz. birds, the off spring of these birds, most of them will be regular size birds. I have worked with these birds for the past 12 years & I have ordered eggs from different breeders. You will not find these birds that will all get that big.
So, if you see that someone has 16 os. Pharoah quail, you need to be aware that they may have some breeders this big, but the off spring will not get this size 100%.
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Arkansas Birdman,
Not one single bird over ten ounces. The average weight is eight ounces. If you ask me that's run of the mill if not worse. I didn't expect to see many sixteen ounce birds outta this hatch but heck I thought some sort of genetic breeding program was being practiced here. My Texas A&M's got these birds beat by a long shot and they were what I thought run of the mill. Almost all my A&M's are above twelve ounces and I have been just letting em do what they do, no breeding program. I am truly sadened by your reply because I thought these Giant Brown Coturnix birds were better developed than this. Thanks for your input, I know where to spend my money for this next batch now on A&M's. And oh yeh I agree. The eggs did look good and I did get a good hatch rate 50%. They would have been better used in a pickle jar for eating. I would have been way better off eating the eggs than hatching em.
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If you are interested in BIG birds try ordering from Bear Bayou Quail Farm. His birds will really suprise you.
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scc,
I have called him but he won't let me go see his barn wich is very understandable. Any reputable quail raiser won't let you possibly bring deseases in. Luckily I can pick em up at his front door. I have heard he has some of the original birds outta Texas A&M University. I'm just about to make an order when my cages get up and hangin in the barn and these will be some of the birds I will wan't. Bear Bayou will be one of the next places I get stock out of. Thank You for bringing it up.
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delet
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I have a hard time believing that the offspring of the jumbo breeds will never be as large as the previous generation. If they were always smaller then how would the breeder keep large breeder birds to begin with? He wouldnt use the same breeders over more than a few years. If one generation was always smaller than the one before it then the breed would eventually become normal sized.
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If you continue to breed with out selection and don't bring in new blood from time to time they will get smaller from after a while.
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delet
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I ORDERED EGGS EARLIER THIS YEAR FROM BEAR BAYOU, AND NOT ONLY DID I GET GREAT BIRDS, THEY ARE TRULY GIANT, BUT THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE IS GREAT. MY EGGS WERE SHIPPED TO THE WRONG ADDRESS THE FIRST TIME THEY SENT THEM. AND I GOT A REPLACEMENT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. BARBARA IS VERY HELPFULL, AND WILL GO OUT OUR HER WAY TO MAKE HER CUSTOMERS HAPPY. NEXT TIME I BUY EGGS, I WILL CERTAINLY ORDER FROM HER AGAIN. I VERY HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM. BY THE WAY THE HATCHING RATE WAS 83 OUT OF 100. :)
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I ordered from lake cumberland and was disappointed to find genetically weak eggs and aggressive young.
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I just had another great experience with Lake Cumberland.
Thanks!
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I see that there were some posts deleted.
Any reason why? hmmmm
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I see that there were some posts deleted.
Any reason why? hmmmm
Well, it's an old long story. Although I will say that the reason they deleted their own posts had nothing to do with this topic, they deleted all of their posts on the forum.
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Well I have to give a big thumbs up to Lake Cumberland Game Farm. I ordered 1000 BW eggs in January. They shipped from Kentucky to California. Not a single one was broken. Received 1167 eggs. That was a lot extra.
Anyway, Hatch days were yesterday and today. So far from 1167 eggs. I have 1094 healthy chicks. The rest are still in the hatcher and very promissing. Wow I am very impressed. Repeat customer here.
Thanks so much
Teresa
Mt. Bullion Gamebirds.
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That's pretty good if you were to ask me. I'd like to have the facilities to handle 1000 bobs. Very good hatch. Almost 94% at this time.
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Yes, I am very surprised with the hatch rate. My poor husband. He is already trying to figure out where he will put the new flight pens. We already have three and he just completed my breeding pens. A little more birds than what I thought would hatch. I was thinking about 50-60%. We got chicks coming out our ears. That's okay. I very happy.
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Lake Cumberland has a nice product, good hatches, nice Jumbo Wisconsin Bobwhite. The only problem is that they are SO SLOW in shipping. Every year for three years I am assured it was a temporary problem. I ordered 500 eggs March 2, 2007 and am still waiting. No answers to my emails and a sympathetic answer to my phone call, but still no definite ship date. My spring schedule is shot and I have no answer for my customers.
They have assured me next year will be better, again.
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I ordered 500 bobwhites on March 24 and still telling me same thing as you "we'll see if we can't get out next week. They are nice furtile eggs but if you have a deadline don't order from them.
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I just received my order of 500 BW eggs after waiting almost 2 months. Eggs were well packaged and only 3 were broken. All eggs were uniform in size and extremely clean. Other than the long wait I am pretty pleased with the shipment. They did send at least 10% more than ordered. I will incubate them in my Sportsman incubator and post later on the outcome.