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Hunting Gamebirds => Hunting Gamebirds => Topic started by: derk1 on May 10, 2004, 07:58:16 PM
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hunting poll
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Hey,derk1.I would because where i live we do not have very many any more
I live in The Pineywoods Of East Texas.,,,,God Bless,,,,Jay,,,, :wink:
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i'm raising some now to use for training my dogs and hunting.....they'll go to the fly pen as soon as they can survive there....wilder the better!
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I probably should vote no. I'd rather just catch em' and eat em' especially the way I shoot. :lol: Nothing wrong with it to me. I never have, but if the game bird poppulation was low in an area, that might be the only way to hunt them. Also some are going to escape and help the local population.
Good day
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I would if they were flighty birds that were actually a "sport" to hit.
If I think they are just big fat lazy birds I would rather just go out to my pen and catch them.
I think they can definately be a challenge if raised properly even for the most skilled hunter.
I have seen some birds that fly faster/smarter than the "local" population we have.
my 2 cents
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i sold jumbo day olds last summer to 2-customers. they had broaders with grow out pen. they keep them in there for 6-7weeks and released them in to the wild and then hunted them that fall. and they said that they had some excellant dogs that couldnt find them after they got up. said they were meaty, good flyer, and could really hide. i think if you release the birds at 6-7-8 weeks old is the ticket.
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If you're gonna hunt, do it the real way! Hunting domestic animals is cheating.
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hmmmm..guess this will depend on your definition of domestic animals...
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Jess, We would hunt wild birds, If we could find them, after you have incubated, hatched, and raised them,, Spend sleepless hours whatching your eggs and baby birds,,, I figger you can do any thing with them that you want, Sounds like you need to go to the PETA web site, and give them an ATTA BOY for letting the animals die off by disease or inbreeding because they are overpopulated,, or you can save the whales??? Thats what my son came in one day selling from school!! TEE Shirts for $30.oo dollars apeice to save some kind of whale!! Hell I don't even eat whale!! I told him that what we spent on huntin and fishin licenses ever year is my contrubition to the whale. We raise quail, and other birds for the enjoyment and the love of it!!!! Let me ask you???? If you have or are hatching birds?? what are you gonna do with them??? ( and if your not, what are you doin here) But are you going turn them loose and introduce a new disease into the wild bird enviroment? You can say that this is what we do,,, But, just about all of us here know our limitations, our large and small farms, and what we can do. Just read some more post on this site.... WE CARE!!!!! I can see by your post,, that you don't know yours. (or if you do please explain it to me) will it make you feel better if everyone turns every bird loose, sick or not, and destrorys every thing that is there Just so you can pat yourself on the back and holler to your hippie friends,,,, LOOK HERE WHAT I DID!!! I"LL BET BEFORE THE WEEK IS OVER<<< YOU"LL HAVE SOME KIND OF MEAT TO EAT!!! domestecated, or not!!!!
I AM SAYING THIS BECAUSE MY NEIGHBOR CAME OVER TO LOOK AT MY BIRDS YESTERDAY, (she thought they were so cute) WHEN SHE ASK ME WHAT I WAS GONNA DO WITH THEM,, I TOLD HER I WOULD PROBABLY HUNT THEM AND EAT THEM OR WHATEVER? TODAY I GOT A VISIT FROM THE JEFF COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY,, SEEMS I CAN'T DO A DAMN THING WITH THEM!! I BOUGHT THE EGGS, INCUBATED THEM, BROODED THEM RAISED THEM,,, BUT THEY ARE NOT MINE,, ACCORDING TO THEM!!!!
Don't mean to sound so pissed-off,, but rite now I AM!!! MARK
ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH TREE HUGGERS?????
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Humane Society??
They are nothing more than a bunch of tree huggers anymore. The single biggest anti-hunting group in America. So what did they say to you?
I think I would have used my 12 guage I keep in the barn just for that occasion and escorted them right out to the road if they did not have a sherriff and search warrant with them. Without a warrant they are trespassing, and i would press charges..I would also make life fun for the neighbor. It is legal to shoot my shotgun at 2:00 A.M everynight at varmits and predators trying to "hurt" my birds. A 12 guage going off about 10 times everynight might get the point across. I dont blame you I would be pissed too. Return the favor to them I would..
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Land of the Free
Home of the Brave
Your supposedly free to do what you want,
but you have to be brave to stand up to some of these f---heads!
Hats off to you Mark!! I'd be pissed also!!
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Derik1 and Gambird,,,AND DUCK NUTT I am standin for all its worth,,,,,,,,, Guys or gals,,,,,,, hang with me and we will be the best that we can BEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
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Humane Society??
They are nothing more than a bunch of tree huggers anymore. The single biggest anti-hunting group in America. So what did they say to you?
I think I would have used my 12 guage I keep in the barn just for that occasion and escorted them right out to the road if they did not have a sherriff and search warrant with them. Without a warrant they are trespassing, and i would press charges..I would also make life fun for the neighbor. It is legal to shoot my shotgun at 2:00 A.M everynight at varmits and predators trying to "hurt" my birds. A 12 guage going off about 10 times everynight might get the point across. I dont blame you I would be pissed too. Return the favor to them I would..[/quote
JUST LET THEM GO,, THEY AINT GOT ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOIN ON ANYWAY. i HA0VE MORE EMAILS THAN YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!! HOLE LOT FROM THOSE HUGGERS!!!!! HELL ,,,,, LET EM JUMP IN!!!!! I CAN HANDLE IT
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Anybody had better bring the law and some warrants before they step foot on my property to start any crap. Way to go Derk, look at what you've started!! LOL!!! I must agree with derk on this, I have been known to go out at 3am and unload my SKS with 32 round banana clip attached a couple of times. You'd swear it was a machine gun!! Then set back and listen to the neighbors kids cry and them running out and calling for their yapping dogs, thinking that I shot them all! LOL!! Some people are just plain stupid and think they know something. These type if "tree huggers" should spend their time asking this government of ours where in the hell our jobs are at and such.....you know, things that really matter. I work for the SOB's (government) so I see alot more of their crap than most, it's unreal!! Quit pickin' on the average guy and spend their time doing something realistic and worthwhile. If they had it their way, we'd give it all back to the Indians and none of us including them would exist. Loosers is what we call them around here, most of which don't work and live off of me, if they worked, they wouldn't have time to stand in front of the courthouse every monday holding signs stating things such as, "No Nukes" and garbage!!
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I live in NC and they (Unhuman Society) are everywhere in my area . I worked with a guy and said something in conversation about raising some quail and a few had died his wife called about coming to take a look , well I didn't know she was the preident of the local (Unhuman Society) . Never the less she got as far as the gate to the field , a buddy called me and he told me an hour before she got there . I dont want to hurt anything , I am a sportsman !!! I hunt & Fish & eat what I harvest PERIOD !!! :evil:
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actuallly, I'd invite the 'good neighbor' over for dinner....act like nothing ever happened, and just as she started eating , ask her if she enjoys the meat...then i'd inform her it was some of the quail she saw a few days ago in my pens! heheeh..... then i'd kick her arse out!
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Hey, what the hell are you so pissed off at me about?! I'm not the humane society! In fact, I'd like to get rid of 'em too! In my last post, I only meant that shooting them is a waste of meat, is it not? There are other ways to kill domestic birds, like choppin' their heads off like we do.....I don't care about killing animals, I raise them for meat too. But why shoot them?
I don't raise quail yet, I'm here to learn how to raise them, like nesting and such.....So if anything I say, like about shooting them, is wrong, please inform me.
Please don't b*tch at me because of what happened to you....you totally misunderstood what I said.
And how can they not allow you to kill your birds? They can't do anything about it unless you're treating them wrong in HOW you raise them. You're farming them, you're allowed to kill and eat 'em, just like anyone else. Was your neighbour telling them things that weren't true, like if you weren't feeding them right or something like that?
I've had the humane society called on me too, and they almost took my animals based on what one of the neighbours said that wasn't true....I don't know which neighbour.....so I know full well what it's like.
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duck nut, that's a good idea....sounds like something I'd do too! LOL :wink:
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Fourche hang in there. If you bought them and raised them and have all your paperwork in order, you are allowed to hunt them or whatever you want to do with them.
Let the animal rights people play with their dogs and cats, etc. and leave well enough alone.
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Couple of Points.
The Sheriffs Department dosn't need a Search Warrant to come onto your property and speak with you regarding a complainant. Now if your not home, they cannot look go into your buildings and look around.
The HS can give you all the lip service they want. Them telling you what you can and cannot do with your birds is nothing but lip service. First they would have to take you to court and then prove something or another and then get a judgement. Kinda hard to do with farm raised animals, birds, ect.
Last point.
Killing the birds is just that. If you cut off their heads, wring thier necks, shoot them they are dead. every one has an opion, but with each opion, there must be some reason behind it. The only thing I can think of is anti gun or the poor little birdy might suffer a bit.
If its the suffering your thinking about, think about the little birds that starve every day, or the ones that get ripped apart alive by fox, hawks, owls. ect....
<<<<now where did that spell check key go>>>>>>>>>>
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We do not have many birds to hunt in our area. We started raising birds because my son HAD TO HAVE a GSP. We regularly release quail and the dog points em, he shoots, dog retrieves and mom cleans and cooks. (and mom spends endless hours watching chicks hatch and believe me, I do get attatched to them)
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Hey, uplandmom, I really admire you, my mom did the same thang, we brought birds home, cleaned them, but they wernt always cleaned the way she liked them to be, so she would take them and do the rest then cook them, damn they were good, then when the wild birds were gone,, we had to go and buy birds to hunt,,,,,,,,,,,You know,,, they wernt as much fun ,,,,,,but they shore tasted good!!!! THANKS TO ALL YOU MOMS!!!!!!!!
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Man oh man what a topic...Tree huggers? They have no idea what we are doing. We are the best stewards of the land that they could ever think of being. I think they should go after the folks who let their dogs run and cats run or those who let them bark all night or chase deer through the woods because they can't stand to put a chain on them or better yet take real responsibility and make them a kennel where they can safely spend their nights without bugging other peoples critters. We take so much time, raising, building, fretting, feeding, medicating and praying for our hatches and our birds much more time than anyone could imagine. How dare your nieghbors turn you in. You have every right to be mad I am mad and it is not me this is happening to. How can they say that they are not your birds. Possession is 90 percent of the law and how can they proove that they are not.
I also agree with everyone else if you don't raise birds then you don't belong here. I can shoot a deer at 100 yards with a 20 guage but...I am not too good at hunting birds yet. We go dove hunting every year and I always get out shot but I am learning and the sport is not only fun but it is exercise, and time spent with family and friends. Nothing like sitting around a fire after the day is done reliving our hunting moments good and bad.
Hell yes I will hunt my birds on my land, I will also train my dog (well when we get one) and sell birds for meat. And I dare anyone to tell me I can not!
My two cents worth. Lori Pike :lol:
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A yes here but personally I wouldn't want to hunt spoiled, lazy or tame birds. It just doesnt set right in my mind when a bird comes running up to say hi, flys a few feet away and sets its butt down in plain sight or follows you through the hunt. As we know, with some forethought and planning on raising and release, the hunt can be "almost" genuine. Wild birds are wild birds...
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Hummmm...never had one of my birds run up and say hi to me...in fact they stay as far away from me and my husband as possible. I don't think you can tame a bob white, although I am trying to at least get them used to me whistling at them so they don't bang themselves to death on the cage each time I go to change their water or feed them. We are getting ready to release 20 in the next couple of weeks and I will let you know just how "domesticated" they have become. We have a large brush pile behind the damn of the pond we are going to release them in. There are several quail already there because the wild ones come and eat the food ours spill from their cages. Anyway....If they come home and hang out here then we will have to rethink our raising technique and probably have to kill Frank the cat. That is the worst thing I can think of happening to them, not getting shot by a hunter but becoming a meal for someone elses "pet". :evil: That would chap my hide.
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Not sure what state some of you are in but here in Ohio the only legal way to shoot your own birds on your property is to have a "Designated Dog Training Field" liscensed through the DNR. Once you release your Quail they are now "wild birds" as far as the state is concerned, unless banded and recorded for harvest in such a field. In my county it is illegal to hunt quail as there are only 11 counties in the state with an open season. If it is legal to hunt quail where you live and you release, then shoot your birds during season, you may be safe from legal hassles. Not sure how non native birds would be viewed by the state. Since Bobwhite are native birds they want to ensure the wild populations aren't getting poached. Don't give anybody a chance to shut you down with legalities, keep your paperwork in order and there isn't a DAMN thing they can do about it :!:
P.S. If you question whether shooting pen raised birds is sporting, get together with someone who is planning a preserve hunt and get permission to walk along with them and observe the hunt. Don't spout off about something you have absolutely no first hand knowledge of. I myself refused to hunt pen raised birds until last season. The lack of wild birds in my area forced me to utilize local game preserves in order to get my dog in shape. I was very surprised at the challenge those birds presented both myself and my dog. No they weren't wild birds but they certainly did not walk up to me and say "hello, my names bob please put a 7/8 oz load of bird shot in me"! I have hunted pen raised birds three times, and three times my hunting companions and I have left birds in the field unharmed...and not for lack of trying! 8)