That Quail Place Forum
Production and Business => Poultry Production => Topic started by: Buckbriar on January 24, 2005, 07:23:32 PM
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We had a bad snow/ice storm around Christmas, after a few days of not being able to dig down for mice, the coyotes got hungry and broke through my flight pen killing 31 quail. I plan to put a strand of electric fence a few inches above the ground around the flight pen and brooder this spring to prevent another occurance. Anyone have any luck with this method of predator control? Also, I wonder if it would be worthwhile to construct a narrow shelf around the inside of the flight pen about 6 feet or so from the ground, hoping the quail would fly up on the shelf if predators get into the pen. Thanks in advance.
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We have not one but two strands of electric fence around our cages and also around the rabbit pens also. Mainly for coons but coyote's are an issue also. Works great just remember to check every so often to make sure they are working.
Lori
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sorry I don't know about the shelf idea. usually the predators get them while they are sleeping but you might give it a go, let me know if they use it. :D
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sorry I don't know about the shelf idea. usually the predators get them while they are sleeping but you might give it a go, let me know if they use it. :D
Hey guys down here in south Alabama we always put a small shelf in the fly pen the quail will learn to roost on it all the time. We have 1 pen that has a tin roof over it with rafters and wires under the rafters for the lights and the quail will roost on the wires like a bunch of starlings. I think its worth a try. P.D. : :D
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Thanks Lori and Penny's Dad. I'll let you know how it works out.
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You could also try a baited #2 victor trap(set out away from your pens). Or a local trapper my be able to help you.
Charlie
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The shelf idea does work for quail, I've seen it done and have done it myself. The quail will learn to sleep at night. As for the coyotes, landmines are a good option.
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I PREFER A 243 AND A Q BEAM P.D.
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Trapping may be the ultimate answer to coons and such. But be sure to check with your local or state game officios as to how to go about it in a legal way.
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Hi
Sorry to hear about your coyote problem. I live in Surprise Arizona, and we have lots and lots of coyotes. I found a way to make them stay clear from our small ranch. I go down to the local Zoo and get some mountain lion poop and spread it around our property line. The coyotes smell it and get the hell out of there before the mountain lions get them (or that is what they are thinking hahaha).Guess what? NO COYOTES! Mountain lions are coyote’s natural predators.
Also take your electric fence line and go around your property line 6 inches above ground. We have done this and have stopped rattlesnakes from coming on to our property. I don’t know why, but it works. Who cares as lone as it does? Arizona has a few rattlesnakes. MAN DO THEY!
Hopes this helps and good luck!
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DOWN HERE IN LOWER AL. WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT FENCE ABOUT 3" ABOVE GROUND OUR RATTLERS ARE ONLY ABOUT 6FT LONG AND 4" THICK. P.D.
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if your pens are at ground level i use chain link fence that ibury about 10 inches deep then put metal roofing up about 2 feet high next to the fence works pretty good prefer a.17 cal for the varmits that cannot take the hint with the fencing
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Trap and kill thats what I do
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I have been a trapper for more than 20 years and I have experience trapping just about any north american furbearer. If I can help in any way let me know.
mike
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Foolproof:
We have kept bird-friendly dogs tied at night just outside our
chicken house & poultry yards for years. Frustrated coyotes are
all around us, and sometimes we hear them right next to
the house, but thank the Lord they have never touched
our birds. Occasionally we hear our dogs telling the coyotes
what they'll do to them if they come any closer, and apparently
the coyotes believe them.
FR
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i put 1 inch mesh on the ground outside the pen and tie it to the wall of the pen .
they cant dig through it and they are not smart enough to go back 2 feet and start to digor 4 feet depending on what width you buy.put some rocks on it to hold it down, in a year or so the grass has the wire held down .
have a good one
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I got 4 pairs of California quail last year.I put them in the pens and the next morning the coons had reached through 1/2x1/2 wire and pulled off all their legs!.I built a wire cage over my pens to keep the coons out.I set 2 have a heart traps alongside the cage and caught 16 coons,2 possums and a skunk in 11 days!!!! I took them all up the road to a dairy farm that has a pond and alot of woods for them to live in,they were free to go.........as long as I missed all six shots!!!!! c110 I was going to set some of my 280 conibear traps around the pens but I was afraid of catching a dog or the neighbor kid. Nick
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Nothing like a leg hold trap for the raccoons.
You can always let the dogs go.
It's the Fisher cat that get me.
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Alberta67...incoming PM and E-mail (if I can).
Want to know the story about what is in your avatar !
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Nothing like a leg hold trap for the raccoons.
You can always let the dogs go.
It's the Fisher cat that get me.
Use a leaning pole set with either a 2 door have a heart or a 220-280 conibear,use a hunk of venison for bait and you'll clean up on the fishers.
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Sharpshooter, Are you saying mount the live trap off the ground and attached to the leaning post.
So it is the same set as you would use for a leg hold or conibear. Ok ... I answered my own question. j2
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Yep,same set.My buddy showed it to me.Keep both doors open and put the bait above the trap on the pole.He gets alot of fisher with this set.He stated using the have a heart so he could let the females go.
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Must be fun to check the sex on it in the trap.
I suppose it would work on coon also.
How high off the ground?
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LOL!!! He just goes by size,he's not lifting the tail or anything.Would be fun to watch though!!! He caught one in a 110 set for mink.Pinned it down and took off the trap.It was dazed for a little while but it took off running in a few minutes. The bottom of the trap is 4-5 off the ground.
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I live in south carolina and believe it or not, I have a fence around all my pen and I just keep my little jack donkey out there with three goats. He has got to be the best guard dog ever! They are very dominate over property and know when something is there that doesn't belong. He will even take care of most of the snakes if they ever come linqering around too!
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May sound crazy j1 but i use a radio on a timer the sound keeps them away!!
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May sound crazy j1 but i use a radio on a timer the sound keeps them away!!
Why not put the radio on a infa-red motion sensor to activate the sound?
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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j41Hey Broken, I do not normaly say this to guys, but, ...... Nice Rack!
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I bet you don't say it to gals, a lot. Unless you're at a safe distance, and moving.
That reminds me of a true sorry. Several, in fact.
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Hey greyghost thanks :-[ I have spotted a bigger rack I would guess about 190"'s just a few miles from my house this year so I am praying this year I can get a bigger one maybe i can get it on my trail cam!!!
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Broken, I would love to see more pic's. Wilder, what is your malfuntion? Am I taking your funny too seriously? What am I missing?
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Broken, I would love to see more pic's. Wilder, what is your malfuntion? Am I taking your funny too seriously? What am I missing?
I don't think I have a malfunction (no, we're not voting on it!).
If you take me even a little bit serious, it's probably too serious.
I thought you were being a bit funny, when you said "Hey Broken, I do not normally say this to guys, but, ...... Nice Rack!"
Not counting the times you think it, how often do you say "nice rack" to women, when you are within striking distance?
I must have stumbled into you too much, lately.
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I don't think I have a malfunction (no, we're not voting on it!).
Shouldn't have started my gears grinding s020
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There are two predator controls I use, besides me and my various guns.
First is hotwires, they deter/stop coons and black bears , owls, and most everything else, the other is an English Shepard.
ESs are bird friendly, if a small one gets loose they will bring them to you, a little damp but secure and unharmed. They are excellent on chasing predators out, or barking loudly if they dont feel up to it, like a bear. They are the same on stray dogs. They patrol their territory, know where their boundaries are and stay within them. They are very territorial and take a very paternalistic attitude towards all within it.
I've got one pup now, will add another next spring. Perfect farm dogs.