Butler Bobwhite

[333_okh]

I guess what I am saying it that I want to find 2-4 reputable breeders that are selling TRUE strains of Butler Illinois Bobwhites. 

First I have never heard of the Butler Illinois BW's but then there are a lot of different strains of Butlers. I will have to say that some people just cross to different strains of BW's and than name them. There are a few guys that have true Butlers but I don't know many of them. There is a mention of a breeder in the early part of this post with his web site. I will have some eggs ready in the late part of this spring after I hatch the early ones out. That is the early eggs that I will get from them. Hope this helps you in your quest to find the Butlers.

From what I have read, Butler Illinois is where the Butler quail get the name.

I want to get as close to a pure strain as possible.  I have contacted as many Butler suppliers as possible and will buy this spring.

[TLsgamebirdfarm]

I got some of chucks butlers I'm trying to put pic on here but its too big my other butlers are from elbert on ebay both got big birds.Tommy

[333_okh]

 I would love contact information or wesites for them?

I have access to crosses in different varieties of bobs, but want to start developing a nice flock of Butlers too.

[TLsgamebirdfarm]

It is Chuck's butlers on 1st page of this Ozarkwings@townsqr.com and bruce (elbert on ebay) they both got big birds.I'll post some pics on my web site tom. www.TLsgamebirdfarm.com and here if I can get them i got my breeder cages there too.Thanks, and GOD BLESS, Tommy

[333_okh]

thanks for the help.  i will be buying this spring and summer.

i want some bird birds for my breeders, but i also have a covey coming from crosses between the Cunningham and Georgia races.

[333_okh]

ANOTHER QUESTION?: WILL YOU BE SELLING SOME OF YOUR BUTLERS ALSO? I KNOW THEY ARE FROM THE SAME BLOODLINES, BUT THEY HAVE CROSSED WITH EACH OTHER I AM SURE?

[Jake Levi]

The Ga Giant has been around quite awhile, it isnot a strain of the Butlers, I think it predates the Butler.

Right now isnt a great time to look for eggs, as the season gets into it there will e lots of eggs available, right now I'd be more interested in locating good breeders of the strains that you want, a lot of new operators out there who are just reproducing what they have and selling them, look for suppliers with good non-inbred strains of what you want.

Ebay is one of the last places i would look for birds or eggs.

Get the mags, search the sites and find a breeder you can work with and who takes pride in their stock.

[333_okh]

I have GameBird Mag o nthe way.  I understand that Gerogia and Butlers are differrent, and that is why I will be keeping them seperate.  At least in the beginning, I use the Cunningham/Gerogia crosses for dog training, and the Butlers will be my breeders for the future.

The reason I am here asking now is that most of the people I have talked to on the phone or e-mailed have told me I need to get on a waiting list to get the eggs since they run out [for Butlers that is].  Plus, I realistically need to know how many eggs I can get and from who to plan the pens and the breeding matrix.  I will be taking the biggest and heathiest of the lots to add to the breeding program until I get the amount of birds I want for producing eggs/meat/trainers.

[Jake Levi]

What kind of numbers are you looking at. Even a pair is pretty prolific.

[333_okh]

no fewer than 30 breedering trios. 

[Jake Levi]

You want a couple thousand birds a year?

[333_okh]

You want a couple thousand birds a year?

at least 1000

[TLsgamebirdfarm]

Hello, I got both bloodlines in seperate breeder cages and I keep each egg seperated so I know which is which. I've still got them all everyone wants to buy pair or trio's and I'm not plitting these up way to hard to come bye I think I got them on my web site last night www.tlsgamebirdfarm.com and a few of my breeder cages the rows I got of them.Thanks, and GOD BLESS, Tommy

[333_okh]

I have developed a list of breeders that people here and elsewhere have given the thumbs up, and started to reserve eggs when needed.  Now the question is do I really was 600 eggs?

[labmancan]

600 eggs could (some posts on here quote as little as 50% Hatch), translate to as few as 300 chicks, shipping delays,damage,heat,cold. Then incubator deaths, clears, say another -5%, then brooder problems, culls.
600 eggs really doesn't seem like that many.