That Quail Place Forum
Our Member's Section => Off Topic Discussion and Current Event's => Topic started by: birdlover17 on October 14, 2008, 02:23:58 PM
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Hey,
today i went to a local farm by me, Steve (pheasant hollow farm) might of heard of it The Queens County Farm Museum. Does that ring a bell, steve?
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Anyways i had a good time seeing all the animals, then i was looking at the goats, the next thing i was just standing there and thought how much fun it would be to raise some livestock, a change from the bird/poultry raising. I believe i do have at least an acre or so in my property in NC, just have to check to make sure i can raise some in the future. I know that chickens and pigs are not permitted, have to check with sheeps and goats. I would have to get a pasture of course. But i'll have to see once i'm done with pastry school i might just move down there, when the house will be finished of course, and start living my dream once and for all.
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and start living my dream once and for all
Good Luck. Those farming dreams can be real nightmares, and you better have a big pile of this: $$$$$$$$ ^-^
I'm surprised they didn't try to coral you in with the other animals, thinkin' you was some kind of endangered or newly discovered species.
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and start living my dream once and for all
Good Luck. Those farming dreams can be real nightmares, and you better have a big pile of this: $$$$$$$$ ^-^
well depends how you operate the farm, like for example why buy compost when you can make your own, this saves $$$. And so on.........
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OK. 0010
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Good Luck to you :grin: You can always tell the people who grew up a little more city than country. My wife (Vegas girl) thought it would be fun to take over my parents dairy farm too, until I told her what my mom's day entailed. She decided it wasn't such a good idea anymore. My great grandparents built it though, so I'm still dumb enough to entertain the thought...
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Good Luck to you :grin: You can always tell the people who grew up a little more city than country. My wife (Vegas girl) thought it would be fun to take over my parents dairy farm too, until I told her what my mom's day entailed. She decided it wasn't such a good idea anymore. My great grandparents built it though, so I'm still dumb enough to entertain the thought...
:grin: Yeah, just try to go on vacation for a week or even a weekend with just 2 dogs, a cat, 6 chickens, 2 goats, and quail. s16 The dairy farm (grew up working on one) is a whole 'nother ball game.........milking cows is twice a day, every day, no matter what. Most neighbors, friends, and even family aren't up for that. Meanwhile, the barns are falling down, fence needs built/repaired, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. :-o
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You can make a Small Fortune Farming just Start with a Large Fortune. Thats what I did Stocks Suck so do the (Calves) s53 Profit is a minimum. A tax right off at best! But were not on Disability Bilking off the Tax Payers
Obama Save Us All c109 and take our c110 We will have to Throw Rocks to get them Quail after the Election hope your Rotator Cuff is up for it. The local Sheriff can't catch the Derelicts that keep Stealing from us(Guns, Knives & power tools) in the night here. I have a sign (Free Piercing after Dark by S&W) If you Dare I will Be in the News if the Bastards come here for a Freebie. Get a Yob Get a Live.
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I can totally agree with the dairy farm running your life thing... Mom and dad didn't stay married due to it. Mom likes to go, go, go, and Dad can never leave... But a few goats can be manageable. Maybe... Good luck! I wouldn't mind gathering a few myself sometime in the near future. Gotta talk the hubby into it....
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:grin: Yeah, just try to go on vacation for a week or even a weekend with just 2 dogs, a cat, 6 chickens, 2 goats, and quail. s16 The dairy farm (grew up working on one) is a whole 'nother ball game.........milking cows is twice a day, every day, no matter what. Most neighbors, friends, and even family aren't up for that. Meanwhile, the barns are falling down, fence needs built/repaired, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. :-o
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Charlie, vacation?? .. Why go on vacation when you have a farm, if its something you've always wanted then it has to be something you'll enjoy every day, if not then farming isnt for you. People put themselves in dreams and make them true, if your wanting to go on vacation all the time what was the point of the farm. The farm should be a place when you enjoy yourself, i know i would.
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I can totally agree with the dairy farm running your life thing... Mom and dad didn't stay married due to it. Mom likes to go, go, go, and Dad can never leave... But a few goats can be manageable. Maybe... Good luck! I wouldn't mind gathering a few myself sometime in the near future. Gotta talk the hubby into it....
Yeah, i mean animals especially farm animals bring so much joy in your life, some people can't see that, its all about money. If i didnt care about one day getting a small farm, i wouldnt do it, but i'm thinking about it. Especially if you live your life in the city, and you know in your heart that you should be in the country living your dreams, thats the place you should be. I personally can't stand the city and see myself living a better life soon in the future. Thanks jaime!!, Good Luck to you too.
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i dont like being a downer but i have to agree with every one else ...no vacations ..no profit...just gotta luv animals and be content with that j45
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just gotta luv animals and be content with that j45
there you go..... j41
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i dont like being a downer but i have to agree with every one else ...no vacations ..no profit...just gotta luv animals and be content with that j45
Hate to be a downer also, but unless your born into it (even those have a hard time getting anywhere)..........................
And I love farmin stuff! Just picked some corn today.
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more power to you birdlover. check back in 3 or 4 years on the vacation bit. I took a week about 5 years ago, had a great time. came back to a nightmare, caretaker did not take care ! I have a hard time finding time to go hunting or fishing never mind vacation. even so when a local dairy farm went up for sale I found myself wishing I had the money to buy it. go figure ! ???
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You're all right. Even though it's a heck of a lot of work, I am thankful that I was able to grow up on a farm and still have that to go to. Wouldn't trade it for the world. I love my critters and it's probably a good thing that Robert keeps me limited with them or I'd have quite the zoo... 007 a24 a26 a27 a28 a31 a34 a38 a40 c109 p42
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Hey,
today i went to a local farm by me, Steve (pheasant hollow farm) might of heard of it The Queens County Farm Museum. Does that ring a bell, steve?
a30 a30 a30 a30 a31 a31 a31 a31 a25 a25 a26 a26 a26 a26 a69 a69 a27 a27 a27
Anyways i had a good time seeing all the animals, then i was looking at the goats, the next thing i was just standing there and thought how much fun it would be to raise some livestock, a change from the bird/poultry raising. I believe i do have at least an acre or so in my property in NC, just have to check to make sure i can raise some in the future. I know that chickens and pigs are not permitted, have to check with sheeps and goats. I would have to get a pasture of course. But i'll have to see once i'm done with pastry school i might just move down there, when the house will be finished of course, and start living my dream once and for all.
Yup...... never been there though.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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:grin: Yeah, just try to go on vacation for a week or even a weekend with just 2 dogs, a cat, 6 chickens, 2 goats, and quail. s16 The dairy farm (grew up working on one) is a whole 'nother ball game.........milking cows is twice a day, every day, no matter what. Most neighbors, friends, and even family aren't up for that. Meanwhile, the barns are falling down, fence needs built/repaired, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. :-o
~$$$~
Charlie, vacation?? .. Why go on vacation when you have a farm, if its something you've always wanted then it has to be something you'll enjoy every day, if not then farming isnt for you. People put themselves in dreams and make them true, if your wanting to go on vacation all the time what was the point of the farm. The farm should be a place when you enjoy yourself, i know i would.
You have to realize birdlover, a vacation, or a weekend get-away is something to break up the monotony. There's an old phase that goes like this: This c109 (leave out the horse) starts to gets old after a while
Just wait 'till you have been a pastry chef for a while and tell us you don't need a vacation. You will soon see that even your new found joy is going to get old.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Seems as though the worst thing a person can do is take their favorite hobby and make it their job
because then it just becomes work :sad:
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I gotta show my dad how to post on this, he might get a little chuckle on this thread. Farming does has its advantages and plenty of uncontrollable disadvantages such as milk prices being the same in the early 70's as the late 90's and fertilzer going up 150%+ every year now. It would be a stressful life not knowing year to year what your income or expenses may be and not having any major influence on it. But you are your own boss so you set the 16hr a day work schedule yourself ^-^
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I gotta show my dad how to post on this, he might get a little chuckle on this thread. Farming does has its advantages and plenty of uncontrollable disadvantages such as milk prices being the same in the early 70's as the late 90's and fertilzer going up 150%+ every year now. It would be a stressful life not knowing year to year what your income or expenses may be and not having any major influence on it. But you are your own boss so you set the 16hr a day work schedule yourself ^-^
Very true
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Just wait 'till you have been a pastry chef for a while and tell us you don't need a vacation. You will soon see that even your new found joy is going to get old.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
then i'll find a new one ..... s020 Like i'm doing now, i made wine, now olive oil, next is cheese making. Keeps me interested all the time. But i do agree after awhile you'll get sick of it, its true. There's always something else to keep one interested, the sky's the limit.
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Just wait 'till you have been a pastry chef for a while and tell us you don't need a vacation. You will soon see that even your new found joy is going to get old.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
then i'll find a new one ..... s020 Like i'm doing now, i made wine, now olive oil, next is cheese making. Keeps me interested all the time. But i do agree after awhile you'll get sick of it, its true. There's always something else to keep one interested, the sky's the limit.
birdlover,
The sky may be the limit, but it isn't going to pay the bills if you keep changing jobs. You will be a Jack of all trades, but a Master of none
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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birdlover,
The sky may be the limit, but it isn't going to pay the bills if you keep changing jobs. You will be a Jack of all trades, but a Master of none
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
wow your good, i didnt think about that, good point!!
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You can be the best in the business, but if you have no time under your belt, no one will hire you, and most employers won't hire some one with 20 job changes a year. They would consider you as a risk.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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thanks Steve, i'll be sure to keep that in mind.
I was just reading up on raising livestock and its seem that only 2 to 3 goats would be enough for an acre of land, i know that i do have at least an acre but not sure how the number would matter if your feeding them pellets. I understand that a pasture would be neccesary to have no clue, i'm just learning now about it now.
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thanks Steve, i'll be sure to keep that in mind.
I was just reading up on raising livestock and its seem that only 2 to 3 goats would be enough for an acre of land, i know that i do have at least an acre but not sure how the number would matter if your feeding them pellets. I understand that a pasture would be neccesary to have no clue, i'm just learning now about it now.
How do you plan on doing all this if you are going to a culinary art school. Do you expect your parents to tend to your animals?
When do you think you would even find the time to take on the task as a farmer, or a goat hearder when you will have to be working to support yourself, pay your parents room and board, or do you expect to mooch off of them.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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How do you plan on doing all this if you are going to a culinary art school. Do you expect your parents to tend to your animals?
When do you think you would even find the time to take on the task as a farmer, or a goat hearder when you will have to be working to support yourself, pay your parents room and board, or do you expect to mooch off of them.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
Culinary school is only 6 months long then for 2 months i have to work at a externship site. I want to work in NC maybe in a bakery of some sort. If i want to have a little farm i guess i'll try to work where i'll have enough time to tend the animals. My cousin in NC works as a Contractor and still finds time to care for his birds and rabbits. Or maybe i'll try to work in a place that offers high pay with low work hours (that would work for me). To me this is what i've always wanted so if i can just put my mind to it i can accomplish it. And only when i finally move to NC and work there etc... i'll start buliding flight pens and all the other things to keep me happy.
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I'll just say this last thing birdlover, I don't want to discourage you from farming, its a tougher life but if you love it you do. I wish you the best at farming because the family farm is about dead and everything is moving towards the corporate farm, to me, not necessarily a good thing.
And, your parents will have a beautiful place when they're finished. Do they want goats running around?
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Little Bear....me thinks his parents are waiting for him to go fourth upon the world before they move to the new place....and do as they want without any trolls under the deck :angel:
He is, after all (claiming) 18 years old now. I'm sure this "special" person will not be kept in the nest a lot longer....at least I hope not ! s020
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Reeves, friendly wager?
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I'll just say this last thing birdlover, I don't want to discourage you from farming, its a tougher life but if you love it you do. I wish you the best at farming because the family farm is about dead and everything is moving towards the corporate farm, to me, not necessarily a good thing.
And, your parents will have a beautiful place when they're finished. Do they want goats running around?
You know what about the goats, hey if i'm the one who will care for the goats they shouldn't have a problem with it. Its like the birds i have in my yard, i'm caring for them and sometimes i do get a few more birds (no complaining). As long as they have nothing to do with them, i dont see how it would be a problem. I've waited a long time for this, not going to let anyone get in my way...... s176
Ohhh and Reeves, i definely wont keep pheasants under a deck in NC. Going to take advantage of the space and build me a nice one (or two...three...etc s020).
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I'll just say this last thing birdlover, I don't want to discourage you from farming, its a tougher life but if you love it you do. I wish you the best at farming because the family farm is about dead and everything is moving towards the corporate farm, to me, not necessarily a good thing.
And, your parents will have a beautiful place when they're finished. Do they want goats running around?
You know what about the goats, hey if i'm the one who will care for the goats they shouldn't have a problem with it. Its like the birds i have in my yard, i'm caring for them and sometimes i do get a few more birds (no complaining). As long as they have nothing to do with them, i dont see how it would be a problem. I've waited a long time for this, not going to let anyone get in my way...... s176
Ohhh and Reeves, i definely wont keep pheasants under a deck in NC. Going to take advantage of the space and build me a nice one (or two...three...etc s020).
birdlover,
Are you going to skirt the law in NC like you have done in NYS?
Yes this bothers me to no end, and no! I will never stop harping on you for illegal activities of harboring Wild Game Birds in The State of New York.
Smile j2 Mikey s6 Got any eggclairs (I know it is spelt wrong, it was intended to be) lined up? How about an old secret recipe of Grannies: Apple Cinnamon Pie, or a Pumpkin Pie? the Holidays are just Aaaaaaaaround the corner.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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No i'm not going to skirt the law in NC, i have plenty of room there for pens. I dont blame you for harping me for keeping pheasants under a deck, hopefully i'll learn better in the future. Thanks for keeping me informed of all the wrongs i've done with raising birds, if i do become very successful with the gamebird/bird world one day in NC, i know who to thank. Thanks Steve and everyone else!!!!!! j2
Ohh yeah pies you name it!! i especially love the Pecan Pie and the pumpkin but theirs also sweet potato and key lime etc... I'll make you one, would you like a piece?
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And, your parents will have a beautiful place when they're finished. Do they want goats running around?
As long as they have nothing to do with them, i dont see how it would be a problem. I've waited a long time for this, not going to let anyone get in my way...... s176
wont keep pheasants under a deck in NC. Going to take advantage of the space and build me a nice one (or two...three...etc s020).
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Ever smell a goat? Have your parents? All this with no regard for property rights. Having a desire to have animals is one thing. Having a PROPER environment, facilities, permits (which are necessary precisely because of people like you), shelter, food source (ever see plants in a goat pen?), containment system, knowledge (first hand, not on line), ability, and true willingness to care for then every stinking, individual, hot, cold sunny, rainy day BEFORE you eat breakfast, or check your e-mail, is a completely different situation.
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No just send me the secret recipe.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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And, your parents will have a beautiful place when they're finished. Do they want goats running around?
As long as they have nothing to do with them, i dont see how it would be a problem. I've waited a long time for this, not going to let anyone get in my way...... s176
wont keep pheasants under a deck in NC. Going to take advantage of the space and build me a nice one (or two...three...etc s020).
Ever smell a goat? Have your parents? All this with no regard for property rights. Having a desire to have animals is one thing. Having a PROPER environment, facilities, permits (which are necessary precisely because of people like you), shelter, food source (ever see plants in a goat pen?), containment system, knowledge (first hand, not on line), ability, and true willingness to care for then every stinking, individual, hot, cold sunny, rainy day BEFORE you eat breakfast, or check your e-mail, is a completely different situation.
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Yes i have smelled a goat, i dont know i love the smell of a farm, wish i could bottle it...... j41 Yes i think i will have to get a license or permit for the goats, not a problem with me. Theirs a nice piece of land at least 50 ft from the house, as long as i keep the animals away from the house everything should be ok. Yes i've seen plants in a goat pen, but i would think like gamebirds they would clean them out in no time. The property has at least 6,000 square feet (seems like more than enough room for me) maybe more if more trees are cleared.
Steve, you got it :wink: i'll send you the recipe for my pecan pie, today i might bake an apple pie.
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The property has at least 6,000 square feet (seems like more than enough room for me) maybe more if more trees are cleared.
Steve, you got it :wink: i'll send you the recipe for my pecan pie, today i might bake an apple pie.
birdlover,
That is only 60 x 100 i9 The house and property I had in Bayshore, Long Island was on 65 x 117 j47
I want the apple pie.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Birdlover if you arent willing to live with your goats then they're not for you. To be fair to them its only the Billys that smell really rank, but, they are a part of goat life.
You are way undersized there wherever it is for goats. A few bird pens is about it.
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The property has at least 6,000 square feet (seems like more than enough room for me) maybe more if more trees are cleared.
Steve, you got it :wink: i'll send you the recipe for my pecan pie, today i might bake an apple pie.
birdlover,
That is only 60 x 100 i9 The house and property I had in Bayshore, Long Island was on 65 x 117 j47
I want the apple pie.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
the property might be a little more than that, there's a forest near the property so maybe if i can clear the trees, there could be more room. I'm just not sure if where all those trees are if thats where the property line stops (i hope it doesn't). Yes i'll give you the apple pie.
Jake Levi,
I am going to live with the goats, i wouldnt just say here you go take care of them for me , I might find them simmering in a pot the next day. I might not have room for a herd, but there are breeds that are smaller than the regular ones. The goats at the farm only had about 25 by 20 ft pen, and their were probalby 7 in there.
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Still need lots of $$$$ regardless.
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Still need lots of $$$$ regardless.
no problem, Me the pastry chef will take care of that problem.
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You can call it........"The Funny Farm". ^-^
'Cause you is funny!
a25
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funny but i will do it.
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That boy birdlover has chutzpah s020
He will be the only one in that community with a petting zoo.
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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Based on what we have read, he will be the most clueless there.
We havent heard a word on what he is going to do to buy beans. Just pie in the sky stuff.
Seeing is believing. It'll be interesting seeing how one makes a living raising nigerian goats .
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::) :grin:
birdlover17/18-1/2,
Have you done any research on how much pastry's and Pastry Chefs are in demand around the area in NC in which you expect to retire yourself? My "uneducated guess" would be that there is a huge difference between NY and where ever it is you'd be in the Carolinas? I would also guess that a "reknown" Pastry Chef status would take several years to establish? Maybe not. :-|
Good Luck!!
a31
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::) :grin:
birdlover17/18-1/2,
Have you done any research on how much pastry's and Pastry Chefs are in demand around the area in NC in which you expect to retire yourself? My "uneducated guess" would be that there is a huge difference between NY and where ever it is you'd be in the Carolinas? I would also guess that a "reknown" Pastry Chef status would take several years to establish? Maybe not. :-|
Good Luck!!
a31
Hey Charlie,
No i haven't but i'll be sure to look at that. Yes there is a big difference between ny and nc, but i really would be much happier in carolina than ny. Its not about the fact that i
ll make probably more money in NY, i just want to be happy and NY doesn't fit that bill for me. To be an excellent pastry chef it does take years to accomplish, but just a regular one doesn't.
Thanks Charlie i appreciate it!!! :wink:
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Pastry Chefs in the South are narrowed down to making Donuts!!!!!!!
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Pastry Chefs in the South are narrowed down to making Donuts!!!!!!!
Same here. It's called "McHappys Donuts". The owner of the place owns his own island and 6000 acre ranch. I heard he was only 23 years old. Amazing huh?
Then we have "White Castles" , they sell miniature hamburgers, which everyone calls "sliders". :grin: That's no joke.
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CH your just so funny... s020
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Pastry Chefs in the South are narrowed down to making Donuts!!!!!!!
Crispy Creme, yummmmmm !!
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i know a good recipe for pineapple upside down cake...i think the quail might like it too c181
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a good recipe for pineapple upside down cake
That's kind of like certain other things, hard to remember a bad one, as long as it's not burned, half raw, or too tart.
On the other hand, give me a holler when it's ready my waistband isn't cutting me in half, yet.
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Pastry Chefs in the South are narrowed down to making Donuts!!!!!!!
Same here. It's called "McHappys Donuts". The owner of the place owns his own island and 6000 acre ranch. I heard he was only 23 years old. Amazing huh?
Then we have "White Castles" , they sell miniature hamburgers, which everyone calls "sliders". :grin: That's no joke.
Those were called Belly Bombers in NY. After you ate a 1/2 dozen, and the after taste of onions, you were on the move with the trotts. s020
Steve
Pheasant Hollow Farm
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s6
^-^ s020
Those were called Belly Bombers in NY. After you ate a 1/2 dozen, and the after taste of onions, you were on the move with the trotts.
s020
I have to drive 50 miles or so to get them. So I buy the Jalapeno cheeseburgers by the "Crave Case", that's 30 at a time. :-o Just having them in the car will leave a stench for about a week. But boy are they good! Sometimes it's best to eat about 15-20 of them the day before you go to work, but only if you need to get even with any fellow employees..... :grin: ...........so they say. :angel: :wink:
Slider, here ya go:
http://www.whitecastle.com/_pages/menu.asp?menu=sandwiches
.....and you probably thought I was full of it for some odd reason? :evil:
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CH I would never think you were full of it... j45 j44 j41 Jalapeno my favorite with lots of onions ,extra cheese and Cajun mustard....